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May 01, 2014 11:08 |  #16

A 70-200 f/2.8IS version 1 can be had for close to $1K these days, in great shape. Contrary to what some people would like you to believe, it didn't suddenly become a duff lens when the version 2 was released. I'm quite happy with mine.


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May 01, 2014 11:13 |  #17
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kfreels wrote in post #16874834 (external link)
OK. SO just to be clear. Asking that question here is likely to confuse you more not less. You're going to get more opinions and options than you knew existed. :-) I'm gonna say the 5D3 and Sigma 70-200 f2.8 OS. It is superior to the Tamron, Equal optically with an AF and OS superior to the Canon Mk1 and half the price of the mk2.

I disagree with your assessment of the Sigma OS. I own the Sigma OS and have seen lots of reviews, including Talley's right here on POTN, that show the Tamron VC as the better choice. I agree that the Sigma is a better choice than the Canon mkI.




  
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May 01, 2014 11:17 |  #18

kfreels wrote in post #16874834 (external link)
OK. SO just to be clear. Asking that question here is likely to confuse you more not less. You're going to get more opinions and options than you knew existed. :-) I'm gonna say the 5D3 and Sigma 70-200 f2.8 OS. It is superior to the Tamron, Equal optically with an AF and OS superior to the Canon Mk1 and half the price of the mk2.

Very true about the variety of opinions such a question will elicit. As far as the Sigma being superior to the Tamron, opinion varies there as well:

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1326482

EDIT: CollegeKid beat me to it, but the link to Talley's review is above.


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May 01, 2014 11:28 |  #19

Sirrith wrote in post #16874325 (external link)
5DIII + Tamron 70-200 2.8 VC USD?

Also consider weight. You say you've shot with the 2.8 a few times. How long have those "few times" involved carrying the lens around mounted on the camera? You may find that you don't enjoy carrying such heavy gear around for several hours at a time. If you have already tried that, and are fine with it, then the 2.8 version would seem to suit your wants more.

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May 01, 2014 13:45 |  #20

hang your cross wrote in post #16874503 (external link)
Do you need IS? Why not a 5d3 and a 70-200 f/2.8? IS doesnt help with moving subjects.

Both the 70-200 f/4L IS and the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II are noticably optically superior to the non-IS f/2.8.

To the OP, personally I'd go with the 5D3 and the f/4L IS. I've owned both those 70-200s and they're both amazing lenses. The better high ISO performance of the 5D3 should give you back most of the stop you'll lose on the f/4L anyway.


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May 01, 2014 14:28 |  #21

The 6d is $1291 on refurb right now through Canon...my vote is that + the 70-200 f/2.8L IS I


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May 01, 2014 18:48 |  #22

FWIW, & my suggestions count for squat...I'd trade the 5DII & buy the 5DIII with the f4 70-200 or (2.8 IS v I) then when your hobby starts making money trade-in whichever lens you go for & then get the 2.8 II.

Personally I love the 5DIII & use my older 2.8 IS I which is a great lens, I have no complaints at all.


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May 01, 2014 19:10 |  #23

CollegeKid wrote in post #16874922 (external link)
I disagree with your assessment of the Sigma OS. I own the Sigma OS and have seen lots of reviews, including Talley's right here on POTN, that show the Tamron VC as the better choice. I agree that the Sigma is a better choice than the Canon mkI.

Well, it depends on why you're making the choice. The Canon has a slightly better magnification at 200mm. But it also has a greater tendency to flare with a backlit subject. I thought the Tamron felt cheap and plasticky. Different reviewers seem to come up with differing opinions on optical quality between the Sigma and Tamron which means to me that they are equal there and the differences are coming out in copy to copy variation. Doesn't really matter to me. With the Tamron being a couple hundred bucks more and feeling cheaper, I bought the Sigma. I'm extremely pleased. I think I made the right decision and would do so again. But everyone will have different opinions because different things are important to them.


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May 01, 2014 19:41 |  #24
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kfreels wrote in post #16875877 (external link)
Well, it depends on why you're making the choice. The Canon has a slightly better magnification at 200mm. But it also has a greater tendency to flare with a backlit subject. I thought the Tamron felt cheap and plasticky. Different reviewers seem to come up with differing opinions on optical quality between the Sigma and Tamron which means to me that they are equal there and the differences are coming out in copy to copy variation. Doesn't really matter to me. With the Tamron being a couple hundred bucks more and feeling cheaper, I bought the Sigma. I'm extremely pleased. I think I made the right decision and would do so again. But everyone will have different opinions because different things are important to them.

Certainly, copy variation matters. All three brands have very good contenders here. I too, am satisfied with my Sigma OS.




  
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May 01, 2014 20:15 |  #25

Sell 5DII.

Buy 6D used or refurb from cannon.

Buy 70-200 L IS II.

Profit.

Win win win all the way around. :)

The F4 will be almost useless for weddings and indoor....


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May 01, 2014 20:35 |  #26
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Brules wrote in post #16876013 (external link)
Sell 5DII.

Buy 6D used or refurb from cannon.

Buy 70-200 L IS II.

Profit.

Win win win all the way around. :)

The F4 will be almost useless for weddings and indoor....

Pretty sure I've never heard the Canon EF 70-200 f/4 IS USM referred to with those terms. An unusual perspective you've got there.




  
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May 01, 2014 20:40 as a reply to  @ CollegeKid's post |  #27

Keep your 5D mkII, and buy the best glass you can afford.




  
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May 01, 2014 20:44 |  #28

I alway choose the faster lens. It gives a shallow DOF and better low-light performance.
The difference between your images with a 5DII and an 5DIII with the same lens, won't be that different.
I think you will see a larger difference in images between the f4.0 and f2.8 lenses, than you would the bodies.


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May 01, 2014 21:17 |  #29

IMO the lens will have longer "life expectancy" than a body which you will probably want to upgrade.


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May 01, 2014 21:47 as a reply to  @ post 16874834 |  #30

If I may chime in... I agree with MalVeauX and the others that are recommending the 6D. I had the luxury of being able to play with the MKIII for an extended amount of time before I made my choice of full frame cameras. Granted I shoot most of my stuff using natural light, but the 6D has done its job...In some cases it has done it better than the MKIII. I have been fortunate to shoot with some really good Pros (Thanks to friends) who were also amazed by the 6D capabilities is it perfect .. I don't think anything is..But the capabilities are. Good luck




  
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