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viperbass
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May 01, 2014 15:42 |  #1

I have a Canon 60D. I have the kit 18-135 lens, an old 70-300 and a 28 1.8 lens.

I really enjoy landscapes. I have been in southern Germany and Austria in 2013 and in Yellowstone/Grand Tetons in 2012. My kit 18-135 lens did very well. In looking at my favorite landscape pictures from both trips, the focal point was typically over 18mm.

That makes me question the need of the 10-22mm lens.

Couple questions. On the 10-22mm, if I take a picture somewhere between 18-22mm, would there be a noticeable quality improvement over the 18-135 lens?

I know the extra width of the 10-22 is a benefit. Now my second question. I plan to go back to Europe and having a wide and fast lens for indoor shots would be very helpful.

Would the Tokina 11-16 2.8 be a better lens than the 10-22. It is faster and I would have no focal overlap on my existing lenes.

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May 01, 2014 16:46 |  #2

The Tokina is better if you need f/2.8. IQ-wise the two lenses are comparable. The Canon is known to handle flare slightly better, but you may be splitting hairs at that point.

The Canon is slower, but has a bit more focal length range. It really boils down to whether you need f/2.8. If you don't, get the Canon instead.




  
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May 01, 2014 17:35 |  #3

You were probably using 18mm as it was the widest the lens would go. You'll find with wider options, you'll probably never use 18mm again in a landscape shot. I have the 10-22mm, and love it so far (only had it for a couple of weeks), but no experience with the Tokina, so I'm not much help in the comparison area.


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May 01, 2014 18:58 |  #4

I have both the Tokina and Canon, and prefer the Canon 10-22mm. More useful range. The f/2.8 is very a minor difference compared to f/3.5 of the Canon on the wider side.


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May 01, 2014 19:38 |  #5

if you want wide fast for indoors, the sigma 18-35mm f1.8 may be an option

if you simply don't want to go below 18mm, then i don't see the point in going with an ultra wide angle

another option is to replace your 18-135mm with the 15-85mm to gain a little more on the wide end...if you find you like it, you can always go wider


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May 01, 2014 19:53 |  #6
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viperbass wrote in post #16875475 (external link)
I have a Canon 60D. I have the kit 18-135 lens, an old 70-300 and a 28 1.8 lens.

I really enjoy landscapes. I have been in southern Germany and Austria in 2013 and in Yellowstone/Grand Tetons in 2012. My kit 18-135 lens did very well. In looking at my favorite landscape pictures from both trips, the focal point was typically over 18mm.

That makes me question the need of the 10-22mm lens.

Couple questions. On the 10-22mm, if I take a picture somewhere between 18-22mm, would there be a noticeable quality improvement over the 18-135 lens?

I know the extra width of the 10-22 is a benefit. Now my second question. I plan to go back to Europe and having a wide and fast lens for indoor shots would be very helpful.

Would the Tokina 11-16 2.8 be a better lens than the 10-22. It is faster and I would have no focal overlap on my existing lenes.

Comments welcomed.

My Flickr shots;

https://www.flickr.com​/photos/55056358@N04/ (external link)

Thanks all.

Yes. The 10-22 is almost distortion free at 18-22mm. The 18-135 is at its worst there. Both are correctable in post, however, with lens profiles.




  
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May 01, 2014 20:08 as a reply to  @ CollegeKid's post |  #7

Consider buying a used 10-22. Try it out and if you decide you don't like to shoot that wide, resell it for most (if not all) of what you paid for it.

I, along with most others I would assume, have a funny feeling that as soon as you get an ultra wide you will realize what you were missing and regret not purchasing one earlier.


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May 01, 2014 20:39 |  #8

^ I agree with everyone above. I have owned and used the 10-22mm all last year. It was great.
I moved to full frame and the equivalent lens much more expensive (16-35L)
I mostly used the lens at 10mm, 15mm or 22mm. On Full frame that is 16mm 24mm and 35mm
For now I am happy using my 24L II for landscape, but I am considering going wider again.
You will not regret it for one minute. And you will 'see' a lot more at 10mm than your 18mm lens.
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May 01, 2014 20:44 as a reply to  @ InfiniteDivide's post |  #9

Yup, you'll love ultra-wide if you dig landscapes. Personally, I'd go for the Canon 10-22 UNLESS I was in desperate need of f/2.8 for milky way shots or something like that. The 10-22 is really an awesome lens. Go to pixel-peeper.com and check out some samples using the 10-22. People make some jaw-dropping shots with it. Plus, the extra reach will serve you well.




  
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May 01, 2014 22:32 |  #10

get the 10 -22. Though one option to consider is the Sigma 10 - 20 f3.5, its a constant aperture lens. If budget is an issue, the Sigma 10 - 20 variable aperture lens is a great option too.


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May 01, 2014 23:18 |  #11

viperbass wrote in post #16875475 (external link)
I have a Canon 60D. I have the kit 18-135 lens, an old 70-300 and a 28 1.8 lens.

I really enjoy landscapes. I have been in southern Germany and Austria in 2013 and in Yellowstone/Grand Tetons in 2012. My kit 18-135 lens did very well. In looking at my favorite landscape pictures from both trips, the focal point was typically over 18mm.

That makes me question the need of the 10-22mm lens.

Couple questions. On the 10-22mm, if I take a picture somewhere between 18-22mm, would there be a noticeable quality improvement over the 18-135 lens?

I know the extra width of the 10-22 is a benefit. Now my second question. I plan to go back to Europe and having a wide and fast lens for indoor shots would be very helpful.

Would the Tokina 11-16 2.8 be a better lens than the 10-22. It is faster and I would have no focal overlap on my existing lenes.

Comments welcomed.

My Flickr shots;

https://www.flickr.com​/photos/55056358@N04/ (external link)

Thanks all.

This was taken with the 10-22, straight into the morning sun, which is just out of the photo at the top. Note the almost total lack of flare. This is just one of the strong points of this lens, making it probably the best in its class in this area. It is also quite sharp, with a slight dropoff on the widest edges. There is virtually no ultrawide zoom that does any better.

This was shot at ISO 200, 1/320 sec @ f11 - zoom at 10mm

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May 02, 2014 05:31 |  #12

An UWA is a totally different beast from lenses that start at 17/18mm. The extra width means you have to learn different techniques, the reward is photos that look different from the normal bog-standard.

I own both the 10-22 and the 11-16. For the usage you describe I wouldn't bother taking the Tokina with me - the 10-22 wins all the way.


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May 02, 2014 08:03 |  #13

I made this decision earlier this month and ended up with the sigma 10-20 f4-5.6. While I would have liked the 10-22, I had a budget and wanted to get a flash too. The above posts are right, having a wider angle will show you that the 18mm you were shooting at isn't all that wide. Once you decide if you need the faster lens, you won't regret your purchase. Good luck!




  
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May 02, 2014 08:39 |  #14

The 10-22 is the one lens that makes me regret going FF.


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May 02, 2014 20:21 as a reply to  @ Sirrith's post |  #15

I have a 60d, love the 10-22mm would never leave home without it. I prefer landscape photography. Lots of good posts here from others regarding the 10-22mm :cool:


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