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May 08, 2014 12:09 |  #16

I own the 40mm pancake, and think it works great in combination with slower f/4 zoom lenses on a full frame body as a compact travel lens. However, as someone who used to own the 17-55 f/2.8, if I was still using that lens and a crop body I would not own the pancake. I found a wider, faster prime lens supplemented the 17-55 much better. In my case, that was the EF 28mm f/1.8, but the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 would be another fine option.


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May 08, 2014 12:16 |  #17

If you have the 17-55 and might be getting the 10-22 for UWA then maybe a 70-200?


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May 08, 2014 12:21 |  #18

I have a Sigma 30 1.4. Compared to 2.8 it is a two stop advantage, and it is more of "normal" lens for a crop camera.

I got a 40 2.8, just could not resist when the price dropped to $129. Sold it shortly after that, just could not find the reason to keep it.


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May 08, 2014 12:22 |  #19

Scott M wrote in post #16890643 (external link)
I own the 40mm pancake, and think it works great in combination with slower f/4 zoom lenses on a full frame body as a compact travel lens. However, as someone who used to own the 17-55 f/2.8, if I was still using that lens and a crop body I would not own the pancake. I found a wider, faster prime lens supplemented the 17-55 much better. In my case, that was the EF 28mm f/1.8, but the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 would be another fine option.


Exactly. though the picture quality of the Sigma is far better than the 28mm f/1.8.
The 28mm is an old design. Surprisingly, there is not much difference between the old Sigma 30mm and the new ART version if you only look at the center image or stop down to 2.8 or more.


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May 08, 2014 13:00 |  #20

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Exactly. though the picture quality of the Sigma is far better than the 28mm f/1.8.
The 28mm is an old design. Surprisingly, there is not much difference between the old Sigma 30mm and the new ART version if you only look at the center image or stop down to 2.8 or more.

I went with the EF 28 f/1.8 over the Sigma for my crop body 7D mainly because of its full frame compatibility. Ironically, once I bought a full frame body I found that I rarely had a need for what the 28mm prime now was -- a wide angle, fast prime. I ended up selling the 28 f/1.8 recently due to lack of use.


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May 08, 2014 14:00 |  #21

I'd add the pancake only if you had a very small camera - SL1. For 70D, the size and weight advantage of the pancake is minimal.


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May 08, 2014 14:00 |  #22

Scott M wrote in post #16890749 (external link)
I went with the EF 28 f/1.8 over the Sigma for my crop body 7D mainly because of its full frame compatibility. Ironically, once I bought a full frame body I found that I rarely had a need for what the 28mm prime now was -- a wide angle, fast prime. I ended up selling the 28 f/1.8 recently due to lack of use.

Congratulations, I have still not found anybody who'd want to buy one.
It just is not an attractive deal.
The 40 mm focal length is not very practical on an 1.6 crop sensor.


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May 08, 2014 15:01 |  #23

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Which is what makes it a waste, IMHO. OP, you're better off spending the cash on a flash or something. I had the 40 with the idea of a small lens for carrying around, but in a year I never once used it outside of testing it.

At some point I plan on getting a flash but as of yet I hardly have had much use for a flash, I'm sure if I got one I would find more times that it could be useful though.


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May 08, 2014 15:02 |  #24

watt100 wrote in post #16889068 (external link)
or perhaps a 30mm 1.4

The Sigma 30mm have been of some interest to me I do like that focal length better than 40 but I'm torn between that and a 50mm 1.4.


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May 08, 2014 15:02 |  #25

jhartley wrote in post #16890983 (external link)
At some point I plan on getting a flash but as of yet I hardly have had much use for a flash, I'm sure if I got one I would find more times that it could be useful though.

It depends on what you shoot. If you shoot people you would be amazed at what a good flash can do for your photography, perhaps more than any lens.




  
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May 08, 2014 15:06 |  #26

MalVeauX wrote in post #16889542 (external link)
As for replacing a telephoto, sure you could start with the 55-250 or Tamron 75-300, or you could save up a bit more, and go for something like the 100-400L or the Bigmos or Tamron 600. Depends on what you need, how often you shoot, budget, etc.

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I think the 100-400 would be to long on the short end for what I tend to shoot which is the kids football games. as I am usually on the sideline. I've often felt the 75 was to long at times. I would think the 75-300L would be a better fit than the 100-400L. The 100-400L would be great for when I go to an air show but that's a once a year thing and I couldn't justify spending the money for one day a year.


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May 08, 2014 15:07 |  #27

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Why not the 85mm prime?

That's something I've considered but that would me much further down the road. I need to get a UWA first and some shorter fast primes like a 50 or 30mm before I jump on an 85mm.


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May 08, 2014 15:09 |  #28

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I agree with the other people and that the 40mm really isn't needed. I have the Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 and a 50mm f1.4, and there's only a handful of types of shots where I'd really use the 50mm over the Tamron 17-50mm. As far as quality between the two, with 'decent' light, you'd have to really 'pixel peep' to see the difference.

My question is, and should probably been asked awhile ago, is what is the primary focus of your pictures? (ie what do you plan on shooting)

well I take a little of everything. Kids football games, family functions, landscape are the main things. Occasionally I will do portraits for friends and family.


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May 08, 2014 15:11 |  #29

garbidz wrote in post #16890611 (external link)
very difficult to dispute that proposition
had one for two months now on my SL-1...it is one nice piece of glass and composites

I have thought about selling my T3 and the kit lenses and getting a SL1 since my wife said she thought it was a good size for her to use and I think a 30mm would be good on it and not too big.


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May 08, 2014 15:13 |  #30

claytonjohnson wrote in post #16890656 (external link)
If you have the 17-55 and might be getting the 10-22 for UWA then maybe a 70-200?

the 70-200 would be great in either an f4 or f2.8 but it's a little short for football games. I really wish there was a 70-300 F4 or f2.8 and I would be all over that.


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