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May 06, 2014 07:09 |  #16

While there are obviously some purists posting that the flare is "wrong" I happen to like it in this image - it adds some interest for me.

Tho the bit of color it added dead center would be something I would remove.


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May 07, 2014 01:28 |  #17

planet5D wrote in post #16885466 (external link)
While there are obviously some purists posting that the flare is "wrong" I happen to like it in this image - it adds some interest for me.

Tho the bit of color it added dead center would be something I would remove.

How do you feel about the image that doesn't have the flare added? Do you think that's a good image too? Or do you think that the lens flare saved the image?

And that's not a rhetorical question, I'm truly interested in what your answer is.

See, here's my thought process on this. I see some people saying that adding the flare is just polishing a turd. I see some people saying that the flare is obnoxious. I see some people saying that they like the flare.

But I'm still not entirely sure what most people are really saying (aside from the guy who thinks it's just polishing a turd). Is the flare good in that it's the one thing saving an otherwise boring and mediocre image? Or is the flare something that makes a good image even better?

See...I liked the IDEA of the flare, I just thought it looked fake and that that fakeness contrasted with the natural stuff going on. That's really my entire reason for asking to see the original. Normally I wouldn't ask. The image should be judged on the image, yadda yadda yadda. But I don't know, I just got the impression that this was a desperate attempt to save a photoghaph, so I wanted to see a point of comparison.

After seeing comparisons, I don't think either is a "turd". But I think the image just kind of lacks impact. It looks okay. If anything, I think I'd prefer the original (I also sort of think the flare looks kind of "obnoxious"). But hell...this is really just coming off as a desperate attempt to save a photograph that needs to get cut. I'm probably very wrong about that, but that was my first impression and it's why I asked in the first plce.

Can the photographer shed some light into his/her thought process and why he/she added the flare? Was that a case of seeing a great photograph and then having an idea on how to make it better? Or was it a case of being disappointed with a photograph and then trying to salvage it? What exactly was the reason for that decision?




  
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May 07, 2014 06:58 |  #18

Clean Gene wrote in post #16887567 (external link)
How do you feel about the image that doesn't have the flare added? Do you think that's a good image too? Or do you think that the lens flare saved the image?

And that's not a rhetorical question, I'm truly interested in what your answer is.

On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the best nature photo ever, I'd rate the shot with the flare a 4 or 5 and the SOC a 2 (granted if it were fixed up a bit like the first image, it would come up a point or two)

In my opinion, without the flare, the image is a bit boring, so yes, the flare 'saved' the image.


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May 07, 2014 14:53 |  #19

The flare looks pretty fake to me, maybe try shifting the color from pink at the source to something more yellow/white to match the sun.


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May 09, 2014 00:49 |  #20

planet5D wrote in post #16887850 (external link)
On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the best nature photo ever, I'd rate the shot with the flare a 4 or 5 and the SOC a 2 (granted if it were fixed up a bit like the first image, it would come up a point or two)

In my opinion, without the flare, the image is a bit boring, so yes, the flare 'saved' the image.

Fair enough, but I don't see a lot of difference between a 3 out of 10 and a 4 or 5 out of 10. Even if I didn't think the flare looked fake (which I do, but that could conceivably be improved), I just don't think it's enough to "save" an image that was already sort of lacking in interest.




  
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May 09, 2014 00:52 |  #21

The pinkish sun flare is a little over powering, but the flares on the bottom give it some pop.


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May 11, 2014 11:29 as a reply to  @ p00kienrayray's post |  #22

Sorry I have been away for the last week and not been able to reply.

Good to see, if anything, the image has prompted some healthy discussion. In all honesty, I added the flare as I watched a youtube video from phlearn.com showing how to add the flare in photoshop on a new layer such that it can then be adjusted rather than the entire image (https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=aVGxwlqpG5E (external link)) This image was one I had taken recently and I thought the flare would not look out of place. As such I wasn't really adding the flare as I felt the photo needed it, but because I wanted the practice. I was reasonably happy with the final product and thought I would share it to get some constructive criticism on both the flare and the composition.

For completeness I have added the "pre-Flare" edited photo and also the layer that contained the flare. The crop is not quite the same as the OP.

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