Should I buy a 1D MK III

Pauhana wrote in post #16893274
Rain, overcast, cypress swamps, etc. It's not always sunny. We don't just shoot birds on the beach, or just in Florida. LOL

I find it strange when folks say a modern xyz camera is so noisy at like iSO1600. Look at teamspeed's guide on how to use 7d.

Want the best ISO then get 1dx or 5dmk3. 1dmk3 is not going to help much compared to 7d.

As a 1D3 owner and ex 7D owner, I do firmly believe that the 1D3 falls down on the screen. It's god awful. I do wish I had a 7D again to compare though

bobbyz wrote in post #16893587
I find it strange when folks say a modern xyz camera is so noisy at like iSO1600. (...)

...Simply because it is. Plenty of resources, images, and well-controlled samples to realize this. This is specially true in .JPG modes.

The quality of the 1D3 files (and even the former 1Ds3) are visibly in another level. The 1D3 will deliver pretty good, dense and workable files (.JPGs) with little or no effort, showing very good texture, detail and color response... 6-7 years later after its introduction.

Quick examples (in pretty BAD / pronounced-contrast lighting conditions):

Although I would take a 1D III over a 7D for many reasons, and although the 1D III noise handling is great, was once the best body around for it,. I'd not suggest switching from the 7D for noise.

For the same price you can get a used 7D or a 1D3 add a bit more and you could pick up a 6D.

Eiro wrote in post #16894382
For the same price you can get a used 7D or a 1D3 add a bit more and you could pick up a 6D.

Very different cameras though.

Joe M wrote in post #16891312
Hello everyone, what is native on the 7D.
Thank you,
Joe

Go into your MENU, custom function for exposure, sub menu 2 and select 1:1 ( full stops ) instead of 1:3 ( 1/3rd increments ) Native ISO's are, as I posted earlier 100, 200, 400 etc. I think the 7D comes set to non native, which is 100, 125, 160 etc
The idea is you don't allow the camera to under expose which is the enemy of the Canon 18mpx APS-C sensor allowing noise to become an issue.

h14nha wrote in post #16894727
Go into your MENU, custom function for exposure, sub menu 2 and select 1:1 ( full stops ) instead of 1:3 ( 1/3rd increments ) Native ISO's are, as I posted earlier 100, 200, 400 etc. I think the 7D comes set to non native, which is 100, 125, 160 etc
The idea is you don't allow the camera to under expose which is the enemy of the Canon 18mpx APS-C sensor allowing noise to become an issue.

thanks, will give it a try

Eiro wrote in post #16894382
For the same price you can get a used 7D or a 1D3 add a bit more and you could pick up a 6D.

Okay? One of these things is not like the others.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16893395
In my experience having had both (actually multiples of both through the years), they are pretty close in noise handling at higher ISOs, but if you underexpose enough, the 1D3 is cleaner.

The sensor is physically just a bit larger too; that, coupled with the slightly lower resolution will often mitigate noise - at the expense of some detail which is not captured.

Because the 1DMk3 has a larger sensor than the 7D (1.58 times greater area) and because it has fewer pixels (1.78 times fewer) then the 7D, the individual pixels on the 1DMk3 can be made significantly larger.

Although manufacturing innovations allowed the difference to be somewhat mitigated, the 1DMk3's pixels are reportedly still 1.67 times larger than 7D's (they would have been more than twice as large without these manufacturing changes).

It is my understanding that this specification accounts for much of the difference in some of the images produced by the two bodies.

Maxdave

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16891767
The 7D and 1D3 are going to be very close at higher ISOs. You are not going to gain too much. You might be better learning how to set up the 7D for higher ISO shots, and how to post process them. You should be able to go up to 3200 at least.

This matches my experience with these two sensors, but I have found the 1D3 RAW files to be easier to work with at a given ISO. The noise looks more like grain than something digital.

I think Paul's comment above says a lot about the 1D3 too. I had pushed my T2i to its limit with kids sports photography and had some very clear limiters that I needed to overcome. When I got the 1D3, there were so many settings that I was able to fine-tune exactly how I wanted it to behave. It improved my workflow and unblocked some of my personal limiters.

The funny thing now is that I'm much better with the T2i. It still won't hold a candle to the 1D3 for sports, but I do feel that the 1D3 has helped me to grow as a photographer and to get the most out of any camera. I'm even finding that I'm much better with P&S cameras in challenging situations after using a 1D3 for nearly 2 years.

For a bunch of 7D <-> 1D3 owner analysis, here is the thread I started on the subject: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1200639

Pauhana wrote in post #16895890
thanks, will give it a try

you could also try using EC and set it to + 1/3-2/3.
I do this when shooting in low light and it seems to work out well with the 7d.