Roque Flashbender vs Demb Flip it?

gonzogolf wrote in post #15628377
I'm not, hence my suggestion to tilt it forward and use the surface as a bounce surface. I was offering advice based on the question which didnt include the diffusion panel as an option. My response to you was just that the addition of the diffusion panel changes it from a bounce card/reflector to a softish box.

Thanks for your insight. So if outside, you're going to want it bent forward, I assume somewhat rounding it forward.

Then inside (if you have good ceilings/etc) you can leave it up, and bounce off ceiling/adjust for more or less direct light.

Thanks, I think I've got some of it

goaliejake22 wrote in post #15628554
Thanks for your insight. So if outside, you're going to want it bent forward, I assume somewhat rounding it forward.

Then inside (if you have good ceilings/etc) you can leave it up, and bounce off ceiling/adjust for more or less direct light.

Thanks, I think I've got some of it

In the case of outside I dont roll it at all but bend it right at the of the flash to about a 45 degree angle. Inside I will round it based on how much I want to kick forward as opposed to how much I want to bounce. I think the fine control of the bounce angle is what sets the rogue apart from the other bounce cards. The Demb allows that as well, but you can flag and snoot with the rogue which makes it a bit more versatile.

I think the Rogue flashbender + diffusion panel is just as good as a Lumiquest Softbox III. I bought both and decided to return the softbox.

gonzogolf wrote in post #15628591
In the case of outside I dont roll it at all but bend it right at the of the flash to about a 45 degree angle. Inside I will round it based on how much I want to kick forward as opposed to how much I want to bounce. I think the fine control of the bounce angle is what sets the rogue apart from the other bounce cards. The Demb allows that as well, but you can flag and snoot with the rogue which makes it a bit more versatile.

Thanks for the clarification gonzo- I would have gone and just rolled it, but 'bending' it at 45* angle makes sense. Right at the top of the flash... I'll have to go and try that! Thanks!

Rogue looks too much like direct flash to me.

Shooting wrote in post #16894056
Rogue looks too much like direct flash to me.

You keep repeating it maybe someone will listen to you. The flashbender is the same as any similar sized bounce card if used properly.