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Swimwear General Question

 
tobygie
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May 02, 2014 02:09 |  #1

Hey you!

I just wondered how the big boys in photography handle this situation in a swimwear shooting: I'm sorry if my human/dog like model causes nightmares...

IMAGE: http://tobygiessen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/diff.jpg
A big diffuser on top to avoid harsh shadows on the models body.
But it logically casts a shadow onto the ground as well and creates a hard transition to the surroundings, in this case the sand, which is bright as hell.

My question now is, how does the industry get rid off the hard transition? Just a case of right framing the shot? Or taking one shot with and one without the diffuser and merging both images together in PS?

Saw this typ of situation in a Victoria Secret photoshoot on Youtube...the photographer used a wider angle lens so had the rectangular shape in his shot...thats how I came up with this question...

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May 03, 2014 01:44 |  #2

First of all, amazing drawing. I would hire you to draw me nude :P

As for beach shots, I try to place the model under the shade of a tree. The shadow looks much more natural compared to a solid straight line from a diffuser. I also usually use flash with a shoot through umbrella, this allows me to darken the background a bit (so it's not blown out bright white), and brighten the subject. The flash also lights upthe ground a bit which lightens the shadows.


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May 03, 2014 04:25 |  #3

fashionrider wrote in post #16878792 (external link)
First of all, amazing drawing. I would hire you to draw me nude :P

As for beach shots, I try to place the model under the shade of a tree. The shadow looks much more natural compared to a solid straight line from a diffuser. I also usually use flash with a shoot through umbrella, this allows me to darken the background a bit (so it's not blown out bright white), and brighten the subject. The flash also lights upthe ground a bit which lightens the shadows.

Hahahhaha thanks...well hit me up when you're ready! :cool:

Right, using trees and stuff shall work fine. I was just about to say that we ain't got trees near the beaches here...but there's this one location...gonna check it out later today, thanks for the 'tree idea'.

Working with flash of course...I just wondered how 'they' did this - on set or in post.
I mean it's all possible in PS...I would just like to see the professional approach of this problem...

Thanks for your answer fashionrider, have a nice day! ;)




  
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May 03, 2014 04:45 |  #4

These are some shots I took with what I described. Placed model under shade of tree, use flash.

IMAGE: https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7369/13908281458_cde56b46c1_o.jpg

IMAGE: https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7351/13930706791_ce8550b210_o.jpg

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May 03, 2014 05:40 |  #5

Maybe consider a reflector to bounce some of that sunlight back on the target from another direction.


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May 09, 2014 22:42 |  #6

^ +1

When I do beach photoshoots I almost always use a reflector. I only use the diffuser when the ground is not going to be part of the frame, such as when she is standing.


This is what happened when I tried using a diffuser when the sun was still super bright.

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IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
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I used a mask around the model in lightroom because everything else around her was way too bright.


IMAGE: https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/11413711675_bec413992f_n.jpg

I also tried it on top of a table and the shadow was less noticeable since it covered most of the table, but I also used a mask to bring down the exposure on the background. This was my first "real" shoot so I learned to pay attention to that during the photoshoot instead of trying to fix it after lol.


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Nora

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May 31, 2014 12:37 |  #7

Thanks everybody! Really appreciate your tips! :)




  
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Jun 08, 2014 23:27 |  #8

These are great tips :)


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Jun 09, 2014 10:05 |  #9

Draw me like one of your french girls... wearing nothing but The Heart of The Ocean


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