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May 13, 2014 13:08 |  #16

ok sorry, Are there any non Kit stm lenses?
and I know it is a step up from my lenses, it actually looks to be the new "kit" lenses replacing mine.


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May 13, 2014 13:13 |  #17

being that it doesnt come in a KIT, it isnt a kit lens. Does it fall in line with the other lenses offered in a kit, sure, but so does the 50/1.8 but that isnt a a kit lens either. Currently there are 3 kit lenses. 18-55, 18-135 and 55-250. STM doesnt define a kit lens.


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May 13, 2014 13:14 |  #18

And it was in response to his statement about it not having any place other than in the "kit quality sector" which I am just about positive it will be. I am not saying that being a kit lens makes it bad "all 4 of the stm lenses are quite good, but they are all kit lenses nonetheless, just like a 24-105 is a kit lens but still very good.


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May 13, 2014 13:15 |  #19

Well the 50 is often bundled with kits and so is the 40 stm, and I am sure this will be soon as well. I am sure we will see kits from b&h with the 10-18, 18-55, and the 55-250.


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May 13, 2014 13:16 |  #20

mine1 wrote in post #16901740 (external link)
STM means "kit"

Not exactly, although the long-term durability of the Canon STM focus mechanism is still in question. To me, plastic mount (which the 10-18mm has) means "kit lens quality." I think a plastic mount is an unnecessary cost-cutting measure on a $300 lens. For me, STM is much better than the "micro motor USM" employed on most Sigma lenses and several non-L Canon zooms, including the $650 70-300. It's not the best for manual focus, but does at least allow full-time manual override. AF is quiet and relatively fast on my 40mm pancake, and is always extremely accurate.


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May 13, 2014 13:18 |  #21

I guess its terminology. Usually kit refers to how Canon packages them and a bundle would be how a 3rd party retailer would package/sell it.


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May 13, 2014 13:21 |  #22

yah I guess it is just how you look at it, I look at as the 4 "now stm" lenses that are super cheap when purchased as a kit. and here is a kit right from canon with the 18-135 stm and 55-250 stm, and I would not be at all supprised if soon you see the 10-18 added to that "kit" direct from canon.


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May 13, 2014 13:28 |  #23

This argument on distinction is funny to me. I simply treat it similar to the camera tiers. Entry level (cheaper) and then amateur level (non-L glass with better build quality) and professional level (L quality glass).

Either way you choose to slice it I think having a cheap ultra wide stm is a GREAT way to have an entry level lens that can snare someone just learning or trying out. or in my case it is a lens that I could pick up on the used market in the near future to fit a need that I do not have but wouldn't mind dabbling in on occasion or for the odd use!


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May 13, 2014 13:30 |  #24

I think it is great as well and will probibly buy one. I guess I should have worded it as entry level (cheapest) and not kit lol.


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May 13, 2014 13:34 as a reply to  @ mine1's post |  #25

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May 13, 2014 13:34 as a reply to  @ mine1's post |  #26

Call them whatever you want, but I've been very happy with the two STM lenses I own, the 40mm and the 55-250, despite the funky cheap plastic mounts.

I'm fairly easy on my gear and don't need the build quality of a monster like the 70-200 f/2.8. Plus, I do NOT want to spend that kind of money.

Personally I think it's great to see inexpensive but optically very good Canon lenses. I look forward to seeing the new 10-18, but the 10-22 will be hard to beat. I love that thing.




  
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May 13, 2014 13:59 |  #27

I'm really anxious to see reviews on this one. The 10-22 and 17-55 have been on my short list for a while. If IQ of the 10-18 is close to the 10-22 it may take a spot on that short list.


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May 13, 2014 14:45 |  #28

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But, if I didn't already have it, I'd be interested in this little lens simply because it's wide, takes filters, is small, and can take a lens hood even with the filters. That's hard to find in a lot of ultrawides that are inexpensive as many can't take filters.

Same here. The tokina is a very nice lens, of not without its own flaws. But if I didn't have the tokina I'd seriously consider this new 10-18 depending oh now the IQ Is at f5.6-f16.

Actually not that I have the sigma 18-35 as a low light lens I might consider selling the tokina and picking one of these up.....again, depending on IQ.




  
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May 13, 2014 15:07 |  #29

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16901692 (external link)
Given the 18-55 STM and 55-250 STM, I expect the optics to be quite good actually, while CA control is lacking, and possibly a bit more distortion to deal with.

I hope so too. I think a lot of people were surprised at how good the STM lenses have been. I don't mind having a slower UWA lens. Most people will want to shoot at smaller apertures anyway to maximize DOF. I just hope the optical performance will fare well against the 10-22mm lens.




  
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May 13, 2014 15:09 |  #30

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I hope so too. I think a lot of people were surprised at how good the STM lenses have been. I don't mind having a slower UWA lens. Most people will want to shoot at smaller apertures anyway to maximize DOF. I just hope the optical performance will fare well against the 10-22mm lens.

If the flare isn't controlled more than the Tokina, then I don't see why any one would buy it, unless the price is around $150 or so.


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