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Any thoughts about my new vintage gear?

 
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May 11, 2014 22:02 |  #31

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Edit : You are aware what older lenses are capable of. Would you be willing to part with $100-$150 for the equivalent Nikkor (or other Japanese optic) to further explore your art? What would be your expectations?

My expectation is that my lens produce a different rendering than the other. So the Helios just do that for me. And by the way, I have a Nikkor 50mm. It is on my Nikon F red-dot photomic. I also have a few chiyoko lens too, but that is on my Minolta II.


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May 11, 2014 22:21 |  #32

The Sears 135mm is a great lens, I've read that the Takumar 55mm is too, but I haven't shot with that one first hand.

Here's my most recent shot with the Sears 135mm on my 6D, a self portrait so the focus was a bit off

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May 11, 2014 22:46 |  #33

Thanks for sharing EverydayGetaway.

I cleaned the lenses and inspected them more thoroughly this evening and the glass on all three looks better than I expected. Not nearly as much internal dust as I had anticipated. The 55mm focus ring is starting to move more freely, but it's still very stiff half way through focus. The 135 looks like the aperture blades aren't functioning (stuck wide open?). The 28 is without question the cleanest of the three. I ordered an adapter tonight, so I will see how each of them perform before too long.

Thanks for everyone's input. I have learned a lot about vintage lenses after this first purchase and I haven't even put them on my camera yet.


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May 11, 2014 23:23 |  #34

snake0ape wrote in post #16898048 (external link)
My expectation is that my lens produce a different rendering than the other. So the Helios just do that for me. And by the way, I have a Nikkor 50mm. It is on my Nikon F red-dot photomic. I also have a few chiyoko lens too, but that is on my Minolta II.

Interesting. I had to look up what Red Dot actually meant. I've never heard of that term before.

Anyway, I've still got a 1969 vintage Nikon F that I bought second hand in 1975. This camera started a very long love affair with Nikon, the Nikon F2 AS Photomic being my favourite all time Nikon. Sold it in 1985 when I was building a house.


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May 12, 2014 04:12 |  #35

Xerxes wrote in post #16897727 (external link)
How do you think the ST 300mm f/4 would compare to the newer canon 300mm f/4 or the 55-250 STM? Of course the canon has IS but is the IQ similar? Just looking on Ebay here, some of these vintage primes are really cheap and have a nifty look

Heya,

It won't be nearly as sharp, or have the micro-contrast, flare control, resolution, etc, as the newer lenses. But, the fact that you can get an old 200~300 F4 lens for $100 or less often, compared to $1500, is the big difference. Also, sometimes, you might want the look of the old lens. I happen to very much like the look of a vintage lens, it sort of has a character that reminds me of film days, the color rendering is different, it doesn't look like a modern lens when it takes a photo in natural light (under flash it's very similar to modern I find).

I find the best price/performance in vintage lenses to be the 28~90mm ranges. Beyond that, at the time, was hard to produce and was costly. There's not a lot of true macro in there, so I avoid macro stuff. Ultrawides were not a thing and were not nearly as fast, nor sharp, so for the cost, a modern lens for ultrawide is best. For telephoto, beyond 135mm~200mm, I just go modern after that. There's plenty of great 135 F2.8 primes. And a few 200 F3.5 and F4's that are sharp and good. But beyond that, I'd rather have a modern lens. The sweet spot for me is that 28, 35, 50 range. Lots of very nice lenses in that range for cheap ($20~50).

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May 12, 2014 20:44 |  #36

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Heya,

I use manual lenses a lot. I have a few. I try to get them in the M42 (pentax) screw mount. As that adapts with a very basic, non-glass involved adapter that is only like $10. I also use Adatapall 2 lens mounts as they also adapt easily to EOS. This way you can use a modern Canon with any of these lenses. Most of them can get infinity focus, but some simply can't even though they should be able to (they're close to infinity, but sometimes they're just a bit off and can't get a perfectly sharp infinity focus, unless stopped down).


Some examples of vintage lenses on my modern Canons:

Helios 44-2 (swirly bokeh)
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No processing done to any of the above, just RAW -> TIFF -> Crop to ratio (not all were even cropped) -> JPG.

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I must say, Marty, that this is one heck of an image! A most wonderful composition; I especially like the way you were able to use the more substantial, woody part of the tree to create a dark edge along the right side of the frame. Extremely well done - great vision! And also a great job done by the optics to render that OOF foliage so wonderfully.


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May 13, 2014 04:44 |  #37

Tom Reichner wrote in post #16900354 (external link)
I must say, Marty, that this is one heck of an image! A most wonderful composition; I especially like the way you were able to use the more substantial, woody part of the tree to create a dark edge along the right side of the frame. Extremely well done - great vision! And also a great job done by the optics to render that OOF foliage so wonderfully.

Thank you sir,

It's a fun lens to play around with.

And with a modern camera, with Live View, it's easy to see what your photo will actually look like, get focus, and see the composition all at once with an old manual lens. It's like "easy mode" for using them.

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May 13, 2014 21:10 |  #38

That is an impressive shot with the sears 135. After looking at some shots on flickr I prefer the ethereal look of these older Russian lenses. They produce images like out of an old encyclopedia or aged magazine. Picked up a Mir-1 and Tair-11 on ebay. God I want them all.

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May 13, 2014 21:18 |  #39

Xerxes wrote in post #16902877 (external link)
That is an impressive shot with the sears 135. After looking at some shots on flickr I prefer the ethereal look of these older Russian lenses. They produce images like out of an old encyclopedia or aged magazine. Picked up a Mir-1 and Tair-11 on ebay. God I want them all.

Mir-1:
https://www.flickr.com …/38465352@N03/7​334155146/ (external link)
https://www.flickr.com …4fhX-8zmjL4-8zmnBt-8zmjL8 (external link)

Thanks, it's a nice lens for the $15 you can pick them up for. As for the images you linked, to me those look like results more from processing technique to me, lovely images though.

One more from my Sears 135mm, we now call my friend "Keanu" because of this shot, google "Sad Keanu" if you don't know why :lol:

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