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May 13, 2014 15:14 |  #31

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If the flare isn't controlled more than the Tokina, then I don't see why any one would buy it, unless the price is around $150 or so.

Because the name on the side is canon, and it'll likely be bundled in a kit like the 55-250 is now. Also, I doubt that half the people who are the target audience for this lens (i.e. the general public and the people who buy the 55-250) would even know what flare is before they buy it. This isn't something that's targeted at people who would have bought a 10-22.




  
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May 13, 2014 15:17 |  #32

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Because the name on the side is canon, and it'll likely be bundled in a kit like the 55-250 is now.

I am not too sure about that. It is a specialty lens, unlike the 18-55 which has been one of the longest running walk-around kit lenses across 8 different variants, or the telephoto lens that moved from the 75-300 to the 55-250 now.

I guess we will see.


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May 13, 2014 15:24 |  #33

Exciting lens. The UWA situation for crop really needs something to get in the mix and change things around.

Great optics at a low price is the key. For landscapes, IS is more valuable than 2.8 and plastic mounts don't really implicate anything.

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May 13, 2014 15:45 |  #34

I'm seriously considering this as a great cheap UWA lens for landscape shots. I'm surprised they went with a plastic mount though as the 40 STM is a metal mount and very well built and is less than $200 now. That's my one sticking point on purchasing this. Not that plastic mount lenses can't be real performers for the money (I'm looking at you 50 1.8) but the metal mounts just make more sense to me and if they can do it in the 40 for <$200 then I can't see why a lens that's another 50% more can't have a metal mount as well. End of the day however optical quality matters more to me than plastic vs metal mount.


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May 13, 2014 15:54 |  #35

Roger of lensrental, I believe, did some testing and analysis of plastic mounts. They would seem to be not very robust, but in all honestly, they are, and many lenses one would think has a metal mount, have plastic mounts.

I am sure you could find a broken EF lens pretty cheaply, and take the mount ring off that and install it on the UWA. You would have to do your homework on screw placement, etc beforehand though.


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May 13, 2014 16:01 |  #36

I was just about to purchase a Tokina 11-16 this weekend, now I'm torn, I doubt ill use a UWA lens often, honestly just wanted it to feel my focal length gap.

I think $299 is too much though for me, come to think of it I might still get the mk 1 Tokina, just $150 more.


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May 13, 2014 16:17 |  #37

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16902139 (external link)
If the flare isn't controlled more than the Tokina, then I don't see why any one would buy it, unless the price is around $150 or so.

I agree. Does the 10-20mm lens have that Spectra coating? If so, then I would expect this lens to be fairly flare resistant.




  
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May 13, 2014 16:19 |  #38

KeenanRIVALS wrote in post #16902253 (external link)
I was just about to purchase a Tokina 11-16 this weekend, now I'm torn, I doubt ill use a UWA lens often, honestly just wanted it to feel my focal length gap.

I think $299 is too much though for me, come to think of it I might still get the mk 1 Tokina, just $150 more.

If it performs well optically, I doubt you'll worry too much about the $300 price tag.




  
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May 13, 2014 18:32 |  #39

icacphotography wrote in post #16902218 (external link)
I'm seriously considering this as a great cheap UWA lens for landscape shots. I'm surprised they went with a plastic mount though as the 40 STM is a metal mount and very well built and is less than $200 now. That's my one sticking point on purchasing this. Not that plastic mount lenses can't be real performers for the money (I'm looking at you 50 1.8) but the metal mounts just make more sense to me and if they can do it in the 40 for <$200 then I can't see why a lens that's another 50% more can't have a metal mount as well. End of the day however optical quality matters more to me than plastic vs metal mount.

Well, the 40 is a prime and less expensive to produce than a zoom. That might be why Canon splurged on a metal mount.

To my mind, I don't care about the mount as look as the images are good. Metal mounts are great, but with lightweight lenses I can see why plastic may be the material of choice.... less weight means less stress on the mount.

In the final analysis, IQ and the photo is what matters. I have the 18-55 STM and 55-250 STM lenses for use with my SL1 (lightweight setup), and I've been very pleased with the IQ from both of those. I had the 18-55 non-IS version with my Rebel XT/300D about 7 years ago, and can definitely say the new STM version is orders of magnitude better. Good job to Canon for putting out an outstanding kit lens.


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May 13, 2014 19:02 |  #40

$300 sounds pretty good for an UWA lens! I'm gonna save up some pennies for this beauty!


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May 13, 2014 19:56 |  #41

KeenanRIVALS wrote in post #16902253 (external link)
I was just about to purchase a Tokina 11-16 this weekend, now I'm torn, I doubt ill use a UWA lens often, honestly just wanted it to feel my focal length gap.

I think $299 is too much though for me, come to think of it I might still get the mk 1 Tokina, just $150 more.

299 is too much so you'll spend 450? gotcha ;)


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May 13, 2014 19:58 as a reply to  @ ed rader's post |  #42

this lens, the 40mm and the 55-250 will give you some serious lightweight coverage for your SL1


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May 13, 2014 21:13 |  #43

The moment I saw this announcement this morning, I could hear the average real estate photographers crying. Knowing several RE Agents, I'm sure they will be posting pics from their new Rebel's on Realtor.com as soon as this lens is out.
I'm pretty psyched as I was looking at the 10-22 but couldn't afford the bite just to try some landscape shots. For $299 or maybe the camera gods will throw in a little rebate, I'm on board! STM's are great lenses for the money, IMHO. The sleep mode thing annoyed me, but IQ was spot on with the 55-250 before I had to sell it.


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May 13, 2014 21:34 as a reply to  @ BlackParrot's post |  #44

I bought the 10-22mm about 3 years ago. If I had a choice today to buy either the 10-22mm or 10-18mm I think I would go with the 10-18mm.




  
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May 13, 2014 21:50 |  #45

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I bought the 10-22mm about 3 years ago. If I had a choice today to buy either the 10-22mm or 10-18mm I think I would go with the 10-18mm.

My first thought this morning was similar. But the more I think about it I don't think I would. it seems Canon has set up two layers of crop lenses. The first is entry level and has entry level IQ:
10-18
18-55
55-250
These also have STM aiming toward video usage.

The second level is a more serious amateur category of higher IQ:
10-22
17-55
15-85
(might be a longer lens in this category coming?)

I welcome the new lens and predict it will be a great seller, but I'll stay with my 10-22.


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