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May 14, 2014 18:03 |  #1

I am a city-slicker with little wildlife photography experience beyond pigeons, squirrels, ducks/geese in Toronto harbor and my dogs. But i am going on a cruise to Alaska with the in-laws. However, I will have some time to do a few day hikes as well as a small boat excursion in the Kenai fjords and want to photograph the wildlife (bald eagles, puffins, whales, bears, sea lions ect.). To that end, I recently purchased a Tamron 150-600 Tamzooka that is VERY large and heavy - even when compared to my Canon 24-70 L Brick.
Urban photography is my hobby and for that I carry my 5D3 and 3 lenses in a Tamrac Velocity 9 sling bag (I also attach a monopod). I am wondering how I am going to cart this new lens around when I incorporate it in to my hikes. Easiest solution may be to put the Tamzooka in a lens bag that attaches to a belt. I suppose I will hike with just the Tamzooka, 24-70 L f2.8 Brick and a wide angle for the landscapes. The Tamzooka will fit with the 5D3 body in the middle column of the bag but not the 2 outside compartments. This means I will have to do a TON of lens swapping whenever I take a photo and return the gear to the bag. So I need a different system. I am considering a second body (a 70D) for the Tamzooka.
So how do you wildlife photographers get your gear around in the great outdoors (please there is no mule rental in Alaska AFAIK)?
I don’t really want to use a back pack that requires removing the pack every time I need to shoot. My Tarmac Velocity9 is quick as I just swing it around. But rather than a new bag, I am more open to a belt/strap system as it would take strain off of my back/neck. I have given cursory looks at Think Tank, Cotton Carrier, LowePro and Spider systems but would love to hear from those that use them or others I am not aware of. I defer to the wisdom of this board.
Wildlife photographers: How would you carry around 2 DSLR bodies, the Tamron Tamzooka 150-600 and 2 other lenses and a monopod?
Also what monopod accessories should I get in order to use my heavy Tamzooka on a monopod? I doubt my monopod ball head is up to it.


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May 14, 2014 20:54 |  #2

Congrats on getting your hands on this lens :) I can't help with any of your sling/bag enquiries as I haven't been on any major hikes, so just have it slung over my shoulder on my 7D at the moment.

However, I did get this gimbal recently for my monopod http://www.lensmaster.​co.uk/rh1.htm (external link)

It works very well with this lens, it's a nice compact size, lightweight, and a good price. I have used it tracking surfers and birds in flight and have been very happy with it so far. The service from the company was also very fast and efficient :)


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May 14, 2014 21:30 |  #3

Heya,

I use a backpack when I'm marching in the swamps that I do, here in Florida, with the 150-600 Tamron (great lens, I've enjoyed it since it arrived and have put a few thousand photos through it's glass so far). I don't find it to be that heavy. Then again, I carry around like 8~12 lenses at any given time and more than one body, tripod, accessories for it, filters, tons of extra batteries, flash, etc.

When I break it out, I just carry it by it's tripod collar neck when I'm hiking from one spot to another.

When I take it with me out into the water on a kayak, I use a dry bag and/or a 1450 Pelican case.

All my stuff breaks down and is held by the backpack, even the tripod and ballhead. It was a cheap $40 bag from Amazon. Holds it all fine.

You end up finding out you have little muscles in different places after a few hours, that you don't normally use. But I don't mind the torture.

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May 14, 2014 22:02 |  #4

ScreamingSwifts wrote in post #16905069 (external link)
However, I did get this gimbal recently for my monopod http://www.lensmaster.​co.uk/rh1.htm (external link)

Thanks. I've no idea what a gimbal does. How does it improve the lens performance on a monopod?


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May 14, 2014 22:07 |  #5

MalVeauX wrote in post #16905150 (external link)
You end up finding out you have little muscles in different places after a few hours, that you don't normally use. But I don't mind the torture.

I agree soemtimes ya gotta suffer for your art. I am not so worried about the total weight. I lug 1 FF body and 3 lenses all the time on a sling bag but I want to avoid a backpack because I HATE having to remove it every time I want to take a photo...and I fear I'd miss a few shots too.


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May 14, 2014 22:34 |  #6

I strongly suggest a dry bag system, even if you are just getting a large general purpose bag to put your camera gear in while moving around in the smaller boats, then roll it up and stuff it in a spare pocket when it is 'safe'. Depending on the cruise and port of call you can find yourself in some very small boats puttering around in some exceptionally heavy chop. Last thing you need is to get out there and find yourself in conditions that require water proof bags and all you have is a water resistant day kit.

(Plus in an emergency your camera gear can then be used as a floatation device.)

Good wide hip belts and dual shoulder straps are your friend. Ideally you want to push the bulk of the weight down into your hips, and use shoulder straps to adjust things so everything rides comfortable. Balanced bags are also very good, being able to split the weight to your left and right or behind you is important if you're going to be hiking any amount. It isn't unusual for people who aren't accustomed to long hiking in rough ground to end up carrying an unevenly packed load, which then leads to them favouring one leg or the other, which in turn increases their risk of rolling an ankle or something.

Look for WIDE straps, too many camera bags skimp on strap width. That combined with cheaper plastic buckles can lead to annoyingly excessive creaking and squeaking as you walk.


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May 14, 2014 22:58 |  #7

philmar wrote in post #16905207 (external link)
Thanks. I've no idea what a gimbal does. How does it improve the lens performance on a monopod?

Have a look at the videos on the site. I tried this lens on a monopod with a trigger grip ball head to start with which I already had, but the lens was just too heavy for that. The gimbal allows me to hold the monopod with my left hand, while the gimbal effectively makes the camera zero weight so you can just move it around with the right hand while tracking and shooting :)


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May 16, 2014 06:25 |  #8

Does anyone here use the Think Tank, Spider or Cotton Carrier systems?


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May 16, 2014 08:37 |  #9

philmar wrote in post #16908165 (external link)
Does anyone here use the Think Tank, Spider or Cotton Carrier systems?

I traveled to Mexico last year to shoot the Flamingo Banding for travel I used the TT Airport Takeoff which fits most of the gear in my sig. Once I get to my location I use the TT belt system - http://www.thinktankph​oto.com …lar-component-set-v2.aspx (external link), this set up handles 95% of my carry needs along with the harness http://www.thinktankph​oto.com …el-racing-harness-v2.aspx (external link) makes carrying the load easier. My usual set up is body 1 200-400 on monopod, 2nd body 70-200, 24-70 in 1 pouch, CF cards meter etc in a Speed Changer and one pouch to carry water. I do carry other pouches in my car in case I need to modify my set up. Tried the Spider didn't take to it.


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May 16, 2014 09:15 |  #10

philmar wrote in post #16908165 (external link)
Does anyone here use the Think Tank, Spider or Cotton Carrier systems?

Whenever I hike, I always put on my Cotton Carrier Vest. If I need lens changing, I also employ my Think Tank Steroid Belt. The nice thing about the belt is that I can swing the lens (in a lens pouch) to my back while I carry my camera in the Cotton Carrier hub in front for very nicely balanced approach. Both your hands are entirely free while hiking.



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May 17, 2014 10:23 |  #11

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Have a look at the videos on the site. I tried this lens on a monopod with a trigger grip ball head to start with which I already had, but the lens was just too heavy for that. The gimbal allows me to hold the monopod with my left hand, while the gimbal effectively makes the camera zero weight so you can just move it around with the right hand while tracking and shooting :)

Thanks Tanya - a gimbal I shall get! I see you own a Chinese Crested. I love their look. We wanted one but felt that might be cruel and inhumane since we live in cold Canada.


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May 17, 2014 10:46 |  #12

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Whenever I hike, I always put on my Cotton Carrier Vest. If I need lens changing, I also employ my Think Tank Steroid Belt. The nice thing about the belt is that I can swing the lens (in a lens pouch) to my back while I carry my camera in the Cotton Carrier hub in front for very nicely balanced approach. Both your hands are entirely free while hiking.


I used a Lowepro Toploader before I switched to the Tamrac sling bag. But with 3 lenses I felt gravity was pulling it downwards too often and at awkward places. Plus, the load obstructed my thighs when walking, especially uphill. But at least there was a nice bag to hold and protect the camera.

I like the Think Tank skin and modular systems but I wonder where the camera goes when it is not in my hands. And how would I carry the Tamzooka if I eschew the backpack? I guess it would be the Digital Holster.

And the Spider and Cotton carrier systems look fast but seem to be good weather setups. If it rains most of the time while I'm in Alaska how do you protect the camera? And with the Spider system it must be difficult/inconvenient to sit down or lay on the ground with it.


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May 17, 2014 12:54 |  #13

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I like the Think Tank skin and modular systems but I wonder where the camera goes when it is not in my hands. And how would I carry the Tamzooka if I eschew the backpack? I guess it would be the Digital Holster.

And the Spider and Cotton carrier systems look fast but seem to be good weather setups. If it rains most of the time while I'm in Alaska how do you protect the camera? And with the Spider system it must be difficult/inconvenient to sit down or lay on the ground with it.

Yes, the TT Digital Holster. Your camera, when it is not in your hands, goes in the Cotton Carrier Vest hub ready to shoot. When it's raining, you can place the camera with the lens attached to the Digital Holster or use a rain poncho to cover yourself entirely. Every TT bags and holsters come with a good quality rain cover. I do not know the size of your lens, so you'll have to figure out which DH to get. TT also has modular pouches just to hold the camera itself, and these pouches also come with rain covers.

The TT Steroid Belt allows easy swiveling of the DH and modular bags around your waist, allowing you to adjust for optimal weight distribution and balance. When you need to sit down, just take the belt off.



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May 19, 2014 09:28 |  #14

ah yes, the plastic rain poncho!!! Thanks


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May 19, 2014 21:42 |  #15

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Thanks Tanya - a gimbal I shall get! I see you own a Chinese Crested. I love their look. We wanted one but felt that might be cruel and inhumane since we live in cold Canada.

lol, yes - he's a real character, love him to bits :D Before moving to Oz we lived in Scotland and he copped just fine with the cold - plenty of clothes, fleeces, pj's etc and waterproof trouser suits with fleeces underneath for outside when wet. I believe they are fairly popular in Scandinavian countries, and I've seen plenty of pics of them enjoying the snow. You just have to be sensible with them :)


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