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Hi guys, am new here and would like to improve my shots

 
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Dec 11, 2013 08:58 |  #1

First of, i'm colour deficient and i've tried my best to do the best post i can to my eyes, can anyone tell me what's wrong here? I know its a bad shot. Why are my photos so grainy at ISO 100 still?

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Dec 11, 2013 09:12 |  #2

Colors look pretty good to me but I'm on a lap top right now. Long exposures will sometimes cause graininess.


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Dec 11, 2013 09:55 |  #3

I agree with Gregory, they look good to me. And I have also seen where long shots do introduce some noise to shots. It should clean up pretty easily in DPP or most other RAW processing applications.


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Dec 11, 2013 19:30 |  #4

The clarity is super and the colors are awesome. Great job.


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Dec 11, 2013 19:36 |  #5

Colors and focus look pretty good. Are you having to push your exposure/shadows up in post at all?


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Dec 12, 2013 14:23 as a reply to  @ Snydremark's post |  #6

Am I the only one seeing clipped blacks?


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Dec 13, 2013 00:53 |  #7

I think you did a good job on these, the grain is only noticeable on the top photo… for me at least.




  
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Dec 13, 2013 08:08 |  #8

Advanced_AP2 wrote in post #16523580 (external link)
I think you did a good job on these, the grain is only noticeable on the top photo… for me at least.

Hey thanks! Maybe my notebook isnt calibrated properly to see it.

chauncey wrote in post #16522258 (external link)
Am I the only one seeing clipped blacks?

Snydremark wrote in post #16520214 (external link)
Colors and focus look pretty good. Are you having to push your exposure/shadows up in post at all?

Yep, i did slightly.

Ethosb wrote in post #16520208 (external link)
The clarity is super and the colors are awesome. Great job.


Thank you for the compliment! as usual am trying to improve what to post process to make an image shine out. As i said, i'm colour deficient and i might have some issue with the post process.

sirquack wrote in post #16518722 (external link)
I agree with Gregory, they look good to me. And I have also seen where long shots do introduce some noise to shots. It should clean up pretty easily in DPP or most other RAW processing applications.

Thanks for the compliment too! I thought it was pretty bad the first time i saw it, hence i posted it here. Even my peers said it was nice too!




  
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Dec 13, 2013 10:18 |  #9

looks good, i would maybe bring the crop down on the first one to just above the building line, the sky doesnt add anything to the image, takes away from it imo. Try to establish the focal point more predominantly on the business on the corner.


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Dec 13, 2013 11:54 |  #10

First photo: 23 sec at f/29, ISO100 and second one is 30 sec at f/32, ISO200. Do the originals look under exposed? I'm guessing yes.

I'm surprised to see them sharper than I expect. Diffraction (at such a small aperture) should soften the image a lot. I think the noise, in addition to long exposure, comes from pushing up the exposure and shadow and sharpening in post processing. The final edit looks nice though. I like the long starburst effects produced by very small aperture.




  
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Dec 13, 2013 13:58 |  #11

OP: If you turn on Image Editing Ok in your profile, I can throw up a quick example of how you can easily clean up the noise in the skies of the first shot. If you have a way to link to the RAW file or original JPEG if that's how you shoot, it would be interesting to see what you started with that generated these results.


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May 19, 2014 21:03 |  #12

Bumping an old thread because I keep having the SAME thing happen and don't know what's causing it! I shot a sunrise the other morning and my photos all have that exact same graininess to them at various apertures and exposures. ISO was even at 100! What am I doing wrong? Someone please help me here!


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May 19, 2014 21:43 |  #13

HondaVtec21 wrote in post #16916078 (external link)
Bumping an old thread because I keep having the SAME thing happen and don't know what's causing it! I shot a sunrise the other morning and my photos all have that exact same graininess to them at various apertures and exposures. ISO was even at 100! What am I doing wrong? Someone please help me here!

I suggest you start your own thread and post some examples. But in general if you are increasing the exposure or brightness, or performing shadow detail recovery in your post processing you will see noise.


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May 20, 2014 18:52 |  #14

At very high f stops, diffraction Lowers the quality of the image, is f32 really neccesary?
I like the shots by the way, just something I thought about.


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May 20, 2014 19:14 |  #15

I did not notice the high Aperture and as others have stated here, that will usually result in some diffraction that does impact overall sharpness. I have heard many people who are in the know using nothing more than f/13. You would have had to shorten the exposure, but it might have allowed you to not have to pull up the shadows as much causing the noise as well.
So there are a few things that might have positive impacts on your image.


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