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Lesson learned. Preference for sun position and sports.

 
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May 20, 2014 09:59 |  #1

I learned my lesson a couple weeks ago. I did NOT pay attention to sun position and shot a rugby game from end zone with bright sun, no clouds perpendicular to me and players. I dealt with a lot of half almost-blown out and half almost too-dark rugby players photos.

So here's my question. If given the opportunity would you choose to shoot into the sun or sun at your back?

Either one will simplify exposure and mostly eliminate half bright/half dark people. I've tried both in subsequent games and it seems into sun is better as there are less drastic shadows on players faces.


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May 20, 2014 10:01 |  #2

I want sun on faces. If you have the sun on their backs and you expose the faces then you risk blowouts on anylight light colored in the scene.




  
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May 20, 2014 10:58 |  #3

Sun at my back.

I very rarely shoot into the sun, usually for a certain look such as a sillouhette of a waterskiier or similar.


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May 20, 2014 11:06 |  #4

JeffreyG wrote in post #16917222 (external link)
Sun at my back.

Would you change your stance based on background? If into the sun were a nicer backdrop and back to the sun was industrial buildings as background?


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May 20, 2014 11:08 |  #5

Nukehed wrote in post #16917232 (external link)
Would you change your stance based on background? If into the sun were a nicer backdrop and back to the sun was industrial buildings as background?

But you get either shadowed faces, essentially silhouttes against a nice background, or you raise the exposure to bring the faces out of shadow and blow out the background you are trying to save.




  
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May 20, 2014 16:25 as a reply to  @ gonzogolf's post |  #6

I do not do silhouette's for sports so I try to get the sun to my back. The background can be controlled by moving your feet, shooting tight, cropping tighter and an aperture of f2.8.


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May 20, 2014 16:39 |  #7

When I shoot on a sunny day, I usually have to deal with both situations, changing ends at half time. Its a challenge shooting 'into' the sun, I don't sit directly 'opposite' because of flare and getting a headache. I usually shoot a bit obliquely. Expose for the skin tones, blow out some of the background. Better than silhouettes. Its a balance of rim lighting and over-exposure.

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May 20, 2014 18:12 |  #8

I will let the sun dictate my position, although I admit in some sports you will simply wind up shooting into the sun for half the game when the team switches sides. As Hannya noted, quarter to it and blow the backgrounds as needed.

Here is a single RHB, first shot is overcast so I shot her from wherever I wanted. This particular (boring) shot is from the 1st base line. Second shot I only shot RHB on the follow through from the 3rd base line because the angle of the first shot would be a silhouette.


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May 20, 2014 18:13 |  #9

And very infrequently, I shoot a silhouette on purpose.


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May 21, 2014 02:17 |  #10

Shooting rugby backlit can yield some nice shots, as the sweat/water that sprays off from collisions often catches the sun (especially if you have a dark background to work with).
Personally, i also really like the glowing affect produced when overexposing green grass.

Only example i have on my computer right now...

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May 21, 2014 08:20 |  #11

Nukehed wrote in post #16917232 (external link)
Would you change your stance based on background? If into the sun were a nicer backdrop and back to the sun was industrial buildings as background?

The background should be the first thing on your mind when looking for shooting positions. Think out your shots before hand


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May 24, 2014 22:07 |  #12

Nukehed wrote in post #16917110 (external link)
So here's my question. If given the opportunity would you choose to shoot into the sun or sun at your back?

Yes. Go where you can get the best shot. One of the advantages of a backlit shot is there won't be any harsh shadows on the face. Yes, the background will be blown out if you expose for the face, but so what if it isn't relevant to the shot?


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