Kenhy wrote in post #16928331
Just curious about peoples thoughts on todays photography world.
Just wondering what peoples thoughts on this is, especially the older generation.
I'll go and hide where i came from now.
Heh! This conversation comes up pretty regularly, and has been doing so for a long time, heck, POTN was begun as a forum for digital photographers back in, I believe, 2001 (the year I first shot with a digital camera), and of course it's digital imaging, whether from a digital camera or through scanning film images, that has opened up "doors" of processing in what we call the "digital darkroom", meaning digital editors that can in fact improve and enhance your shots (Photoshop came out, I believe, about 25 years ago, when most of us who were working with digital images were scanning and processing film shots)!
But then you say "Gone have the days of natural shots and the shot you have taken is the final photo." That's interesting, and in fact funny, because as has been said, a whole lot of work was (and is) put into things in the film world so that you could go from a "snapshot" to what you could proudly share as an "image", where it be of El Capitan or whatever.
People who come from the film world can, in fact be "thrown off" with the digital technology and the digital darkroom. What's easy to either forget or ignore are the many factors that went (and still go) into film photography: first the choices of the gear to get the shot you want, and we still do that with digital, but then, the choice of film was/is of primary importance for those who want a quality shot, since the film determines both your ISO (speed as well as "fine detail" rendering) but also provides qualities of Saturation, Contrast, and Sharpening, in other words, qualities that go beyond "just taking the picture". All of these things come as part of processing a digital image after you take the shot, including ISO which you set in the camera (not needing film) -- it determines how much the signal is "amplified" after the shot is taken. But then, Contrast, Saturation and Sharpening are specifically applied by processing software, either in the camera, or by many of us in software dedicated to "Raw" processing.
Kenhy wrote in post #16928375
Nice one Joeseph, my father was into photography when i was young and he used to develop his own photos etc. guess im just stuck with that thought in my head. Now i have moved from the pointy click world into DSLR i guess there is alot more to it than i thought. I'm learning alittle every day, the more i get out and shoot.
Funny, but the fact that your father had and worked in a darkroom, "developing" his photos, should give you a clue: when your father took a photo, it was simply "stuff" on his film, nothing visual or "natural". The film had to go into chemicals that, presumably, your father had prepared to bring out the best "qualities" of the photos he had captured on that film, transferring them into negatives that would, hopefully, express those qualities, although as we know, many film negatives would get tossed, but the development process was used to "enhance" those images, and then, the Print, the final process, was to fundamentally expose printer paper to the images from the negatives, but the fact is that without proper attention and skills, a print can go "belly up"...it's still true today, but with our "digital darkroom" we learn to prepare an image before the print.
I am new to photography and find it sad to finding out virtually everyone in the photography world is either correcting or enhancing their after shots with photoshop etc. Gone have the days of natural shots and the shot you have taken is the final photo. I know this has been going on for years etc but until i got into the hobby i never knew the scale of it.
This is certainly a common "feeling", being "sad" when we see what digital processing is capable of, but then look again and see that digital processing can not only take you out of the chemical darkroom, but for most folks out of the "One Hour Photo" mess of going in with a roll of film and getting negatives and prints back, maybe a couple "nice" prints, but how many of your photos, prints that you've had made from your film, have you looked at and wished that they were better, either better in their tones/colors, or maybe even if their was some bit that you wished you could either remove or somehow change?
Anyway, it's been fun!