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What is the best manual film camera?

 
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May 29, 2014 06:37 |  #31

griffljg wrote in post #16937745 (external link)
What was the "Decaying Foam" problem?

They were assembled with low-density "foam rubber" (probably synthetic) wrapped around the prism, and it deteriorated over time. The chemical products etched the surface of the prism. The repair involves replacing the prism with a scavenged one (the OM-10 used the same prism, so there were supplies).

Here's a page from a specialist repairer with a photo:

http://www.zuiko.com/i​ndex_034.htm (external link)

I had an OM2n from December 1980 to March 1994 and never had any problems from it.

They stopped using the foam some time into production. That's it - no other changes - the foam hadn't even been necessary. My OM-2N never had the problem either. My OM-1 did eat a prism (and its mech jammed later, worn out beyond economic repair).

The later OM-4, OM-3 and OM-2SP were a newer, more longwearing, design.




  
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May 29, 2014 07:28 |  #32

I agree that you shouldn't get hung up on batteries. There are work-arounds to obsolete batteries, and 70s-80s-era cameras only relied on batteries for metering, which has already been mentioned.

My friend with the OM-1 just had his refurbished with new foam, re-oiled gears, and cleaned ground glass. Only cost him $130 and it's like new. Old cameras are like the Energizer bunny - they just keep going and going and.. :)


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May 29, 2014 08:26 |  #33

I used a Nikon F for a long time. Build quality is excellent and there are lots of lenses for it that should be inexpensive today.




  
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May 29, 2014 09:05 |  #34

My two Nikon F bodies (and all four Nikkor lenses I have for them) were made in the mid 1960s and still work quite well. While it's true that I have not used them for several years, they took a beating for quite a few years before I switched to digital.

My only real complaint about my Nikon F cameras is that I cannot find parts such as the adapters for the viewfinders to let me see through them properly without wearing reading glasses. Even the eye cups are no longer available. Oh well... The last Nikon F was produced in 1972, so I guess Nikon can be forgiven for not making parts for them today. :rolleyes:

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May 29, 2014 10:37 |  #35

ImOohTooNice wrote in post #16935847 (external link)
Hey everyone! I've been looking to get a vintage manual film camera to play with. What would be your recommendation to pick up? There are plenty of options on ebay and amazon, just looking for the right one to pick up and use. Want to use it both for fun, and professionally.

THANKS!

As usual if you asking for help with choice of the camera the info needs to be provided.
Film camera for what kind of play?

For yours location I'll suggest Leica M RF. To walk around kind of things. RF gives completely different to SLR experience.
If you are more into the portraits get MF TLR, like Yashica or Mamiya.


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May 29, 2014 14:58 |  #36

I started out with my dad's Pentax K1000 and then got my own OM-4. I still remember my college photography teacher on the first day of class said he would give everyone an A if I gave him my OM-4 (this was 1999).
I still have my Olympus set up, but I haven't used it in years. The OM-4 was sweet. Spot exposure (could also average several spots!) self timer, small and could still shoot at 1/60th if the battery died.


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May 30, 2014 07:04 |  #37

sjones wrote in post #16936314 (external link)
I'll toss one in for the Nikon FM2.

I still have mine.:D




  
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May 30, 2014 07:57 |  #38

-MountainDog- wrote in post #16938675 (external link)
The OM-4 was sweet. Spot exposure (could also average several spots!)...

Yes, the OM-3 has it as well. *Very* handy with high dynamic range scenes and slide film: meter the highlights, meter the shadows, and now that you have two diamonds showing your dynamic range, move the exposure up and down to try to fit it in. It's easier in manual mode as the OM-4's exposure comp dial is nasty.

However, if we're going to get into semi-auto electronic cameras, I'd have to recommend the OM-2SP as the "OM-2 done right". This is my personal favourite of the OM's.

SkipD wrote in post #16937982 (external link)
PS - here are my Nikon F cameras and associated lenses with a few accessories:

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I have a book on 60s design that lists the F as an icon of the decade. I can't see it myself - but, having played with one, the haptics are lovely.




  
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May 30, 2014 10:52 |  #39

Thanks again everyone! Found a deal for the Olympus OM-1 on ebay. So made the other. I'll give this a shot. Working backwards here since I never shot with film before. Figure this would be the best way to learn more about photographer and metering light.


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May 31, 2014 09:09 as a reply to  @ ImOohTooNice's post |  #40

Nikon F2AS Photomic with MD-2 motordrive attached. Quite nothing like it.


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May 31, 2014 09:55 |  #41

ImOohTooNice wrote in post #16940326 (external link)
Thanks again everyone! Found a deal for the Olympus OM-1 on ebay. So made the other. I'll give this a shot. Working backwards here since I never shot with film before. Figure this would be the best way to learn more about photographer and metering light.

The very lovely OM-1 viewfinder will absolutely ruin every dSLR viewfinder for you!!!


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May 31, 2014 15:36 |  #42

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May 31, 2014 17:28 |  #43

Dude, I hate you! (Well, not really, of course)

When I started my photo major back in 1978, I coveted the F but purchased an A1 because that's what I could afford. Traded a very nice Konica body and SEVERAL lenses just for the Canon body. After having several Konica bodies, the Canon was a sweet departure.

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Jun 02, 2014 07:39 |  #44

Lol, I hear a lot about the viewfinder. Sucks I don't get this in the mail till next week. The anticipation is killing me!


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Jun 02, 2014 09:03 |  #45

ImOohTooNice wrote in post #16946078 (external link)
Lol, I hear a lot about the viewfinder.

It really is huge, bigger even than a 1Ds Mk III. (No dioptric adjustment, though, and if you need that there are accessory lenses that slip on the front.)

If the leather's shabby you might order something from:

http://www.cameraleath​er.com/olympus_om/ (external link)




  
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