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Jun 04, 2014 14:53 |  #196

hollis_f wrote in post #16951416 (external link)
But I recommend that you peruse the forum showing example images of the 11-16. Remember, these are images that people think are good enough to demonstrate how good the lens is - imagine how bad the rejects were!

I think that's a terrible assumption. An ignorant idiot will post a horrible reject. To assume that the horrible reject is even worse than that would be a mistake. Instead take the best pictures in the thread that have the sun in the corner of the frame, and expect never to get better than that. If I picked the worst images of the image sample threads, I'd never buy another lens.




  
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Jun 04, 2014 16:00 |  #197

vengence wrote in post #16951635 (external link)
I think that's a terrible assumption. An ignorant idiot will post a horrible reject. To assume that the horrible reject is even worse than that would be a mistake. Instead take the best pictures in the thread that have the sun in the corner of the frame, and expect never to get better than that. If I picked the worst images of the image sample threads, I'd never buy another lens.

Having just put together a review of using the 10-18, there are a number of conflicting inputs when choosing photos (the lack of sun just added to this ;-)a

There is that temptation to only include great photos, perfectly framed and exposed to show off the very best you can get from the lens. That's fine when creating ads for lenses or building a portfolio, but I feel misses the point of showing more realistic images.

When picking images for my own review I resisted the temptation to avoid any that were not perfectly square for instance. One of the things you quickly learn if new to UWA lenses is that only a slight tilt up/down will quickly tilt verticals very much. I use such lenses a lot and can still get it wrong sometimes ;-)a Taking every shot of a review (of a cheap lens) with a tripod with mirror lockup and delayed shutter release just misses the point, from my own POV - that's for the more detailed lab type reviews that I just don't have the patience to do.

There are some, such as out of focus shots, that I'd only use if for example there are focus problems (there weren't - the IS works well too).

I don't do many lens reviews, and usually have a lot more time (I did set a personal challenge to get one of the first reviews in this instance ;-)a so I'll usually have more images to choose from.

It's been interesting to see the many reactions to the review as well - including some quite bizarre ones which seem to have read an entirely different article - ah well, that's the internet for you ;-)a


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Jun 04, 2014 17:00 |  #198

vengence wrote in post #16951635 (external link)
I think that's a terrible assumption. An ignorant idiot will post a horrible reject.

Are you really trying to claim that a large number of the images in the 11-16 thread are horrible rejects posted by ignorant idiots?


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Jun 04, 2014 19:08 |  #199

vengence wrote in post #16951635 (external link)
I think that's a terrible assumption....

If you check the review link I posted, that reviewer discusses the flare issue for the 11-16.

I suspect from images posted so far, that the 10-18 is going to be closer to the 11-16 in flare issues than to the 10-22.


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Jun 04, 2014 19:11 |  #200

RTPVid wrote in post #16952130 (external link)
If you check the review link I posted, that reviewer discusses the flare issue for the 11-16.

I suspect from images posted so far, that the 10-18 is going to be closer to the 11-16 in flare issues than to the 10-22.

So what you are saying is that I need to save money to buy BOTH the Tokina 11-16 AND the Canon 10-22... why must you guys be so sadistic to my wallet! :lol:


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Jun 04, 2014 19:26 as a reply to  @ werds's post |  #201

My 10-18mm arrived today, but I didn't have much time to test it. My first impression upon uploading a few images to lightroom was a distinct lack of sharpness. But to my suprise, it took extremely well to sharpening, with the resulting sharpness exceeding my expectations. I've never used a lens that took so well to sharpening. Unfortunately, I sold my Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 upon the announcement of the 10-18, so I can't do any direct comparisons, but based on indirect comparison, I'd say that the 10-18mm is sharper. I'll post a more detailed mini review when I've played with the lens a little more.


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Jun 04, 2014 23:12 as a reply to  @ post 16951416 |  #202

Still not officially announced in Malaysia yet, but some shops are starting to sell the lens at... USD ~430 :( Damn expensive. I guess I will have to wait for the grey imports...


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Jun 04, 2014 23:52 |  #203

I'm looking for a UWA for a while but I'm torn between Canon 10-22, Sigma 10-20 4-5,6 and now Canon comes with a new lens which seems to be an interesting alternative to save money for me who I'm only an amateur. I'd like to know how it works with cameras like my 7d which works with good and bright lens. It'll be my first UWA so I won't be able to compare with other lenses which is the problem cause if you haven't a Ferrari you can't complain with your Ford Focus.


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Jun 04, 2014 23:57 as a reply to  @ CallumRD1's post |  #204

CallumRD1 wrote in post #1695216 (external link)
Unfortunately, I sold my Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 upon the announcement of the 10-18, so I can't do any direct comparisons, but based on indirect comparison, I'd say that the 10-18mm is sharper. I'll post a more detailed mini review when I've played with the lens a little more.

I look forward to reading your review cause I have the 7d.


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Jun 05, 2014 01:24 |  #205

werds wrote in post #16952138 (external link)
So what you are saying is that I need to save money to buy BOTH the Tokina 11-16 AND the Canon 10-22... why must you guys be so sadistic to my wallet! :lol:

Nope, you need all three. See post #184 ;)


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Jun 05, 2014 01:36 |  #206

werds wrote in post #16952138 (external link)
So what you are saying is that I need to save money to buy BOTH the Tokina 11-16 AND the Canon 10-22... why must you guys be so sadistic to my wallet! :lol:

If you think you need them all, forget them... and put the money towards some visits with a psychiatrist. :lol:


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Jun 05, 2014 02:39 |  #207

1Tanker wrote in post #16952779 (external link)
If you think you need them all, forget them... and put the money towards some visits with a psychiatrist. :lol:

Get that for free if you live in the UK.

Too many lenses and visits to the shrink!

Win win!




  
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Jun 05, 2014 04:23 as a reply to  @ Trailboy's post |  #208

Can any of the lens owner be kind enough to share with us the maximum aperture available at each of the focal length mm?

Data for the new EF-S 10-18 mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM

10mm: f/4.5
11mm: f/5.0
12mm:
13mm:
14mm:
15mm: f/5.6
16mm:
17mm:
18mm:

I added the data for the older EF-S 10-22 mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

10mm: f/3.5
11mm:
12mm:
13mm:
14mm: f/4.0
15mm:
16mm:
17mm:
18mm:
20 mm:f/4.5
22 mm:


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Jun 05, 2014 08:51 |  #209

cedm wrote in post #16952604 (external link)
Still not officially announced in Malaysia yet, but some shops are starting to sell the lens at... USD ~430 :( Damn expensive. I guess I will have to wait for the grey imports...

Here in Istanbul the price is $650 US, which is just absolutely ridiculous.




  
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Jun 05, 2014 09:08 |  #210

ynrozturk wrote in post #16953219 (external link)
Here in Istanbul the price is $650 US, which is just absolutely ridiculous.

Oh boy, they are out of their mind.


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