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Jun 06, 2014 13:06 |  #1

What Canon camera bodies out there either new or past models when used with L prime lenses are considered amongst the best in Canon's Pro or prosumer camera body line-up for it's auto-focusing attributes?

This will be for shooting action sports, BIF, etc.

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Jun 06, 2014 13:08 |  #2

Prosumer for BIF and action is 7D and 70D at current time. On crop anyways FF diff story.


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Jun 06, 2014 13:09 |  #3

Starting from most recent, in my own order best at the top... which pretty much just starts current then goes back in time

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The 1Ds line is absent, though it was historically the pinnacle of image quality across the industry, it was never really the preferred choice of action / wildlife shooters due to cost and reduced speed.


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Jun 06, 2014 13:13 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #4

Excellent gents...Thank you!




  
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Jun 06, 2014 14:07 |  #5

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #16955836 (external link)
Starting from most recent, in my own order best at the top... which pretty much just starts current then goes back in time

1Dx
5D3
1D4
1D3
1D2(n)
1D

The 1Ds line is absent, though it was historically the pinnacle of image quality across the industry, it was never really the preferred choice of action / wildlife shooters due to cost and reduced speed.

And I imagine the 7D would share the 1D2(n) line, although I've heard the 1D2(n) AF is silly fast.


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Jun 06, 2014 14:24 |  #6

Boo , I just picked up the 70D , and use it with the 70-200/2.8 L ... I have been very happy with the result I shot collegiate Lacrosse , and H.S. Wrestling with good results

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Jun 06, 2014 14:35 as a reply to  @ 12Rock's post |  #7

Thanks for chiming in...much appreciated!!!




  
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Jun 06, 2014 14:43 |  #8

L lenses aren't everything, the 85mm 1.8 is the fastest focusing lens I've ever used and it's considered a budget lens compare to the 85mm1.2 L.


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Jun 06, 2014 14:46 |  #9

maverick75 wrote in post #16956007 (external link)
L lenses aren't everything, the 85mm 1.8 is the fastest focusing lens I've ever used and it's considered a budget lens compare to the 85mm1.2 L.

I've ordered the Canon 85mm f/1.2L it's a fantastic lens for my needs...Thank you!;)




  
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Jun 06, 2014 15:28 |  #10

booju wrote in post #16956015 (external link)
I've ordered the Canon 85mm f/1.2L it's a fantastic lens for my needs...Thank you!;)

Yep, and that's a rare example where the non-L focuses much faster than the L. I was surprised to learn this. 85 f/1.8 is better for basketball.


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Jun 06, 2014 15:55 |  #11

waterrockets wrote in post #16956099 (external link)
Yep, and that's a rare example where the non-L focuses much faster than the L. I was surprised to learn this. 85 f/1.8 is better for basketball.

My 85/1.2 is my PORTRAIT LENS;)

I agree the 1.8 better for basketball:cool:




  
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Jun 07, 2014 00:59 |  #12

For action sports or BIF do not go below 1d4 from the list above. 7D is pretty good too, as is 1d3. Well, so are 1d2 and 2n but they have other issues associated with being long in the tooth.

As you have seen from the discussion above, not all lenses focus at the same speed, but USUALLY the big whites do well (primes faster than zooms, although the 70-200 series is good)

Get a 1dx and a 300L f2.8 II and if you have any AF complaints I'll ship you some home made waffles. :D




  
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Jun 07, 2014 04:52 as a reply to  @ svarley's post |  #13

It's not really surprising that the EF 85 mm f/1.2L II USM is slower in focusing than the EF 85 mm f/1.8 USM. The depth of field for the f/1.2 verison is extremely thin. Thus focusing speed suffers, or the camera wouldn't be able to hit correct focus with high enough precison. Sometimes it doesn't, still.


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Jun 07, 2014 23:41 |  #14

apersson850 wrote in post #16957021 (external link)
It's not really surprising that the EF 85 mm f/1.2L II USM is slower in focusing than the EF 85 mm f/1.8 USM. The depth of field for the f/1.2 verison is extremely thin. Thus focusing speed suffers, or the camera wouldn't be able to hit correct focus with high enough precison. Sometimes it doesn't, still.

Yeah, that''s something to consider, but I was still surprised that the $1900 price difference didn't have any budget allocated to compensate for the focus speed loss against a $350 lens :).

At 15 feet (reasonable for hoops), you're looking at a DoF of .76 feet vs .51 feet at 1.8/1.2, respectively. The DoF of the 1.8 at 12 feet is about the same as the 1.2 at 15 feet (on my 1D3). Doesn't seem like a bridge too far to me, but with only $1900 to work with, who knows?

How does the 85L do for focus speed when stopped down to f/1.8?


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Jun 08, 2014 05:25 as a reply to  @ waterrockets's post |  #15

That makes no difference. Focusing is always done with the lens wide open. There's also the fact that the lenses set in motion in the EF 85 mm f/1.2L II USM are significantly heavier than those in the EF 85 mm f/1.8 USM. Bodies set in motion tend to stay in motion...
Still, the EF 85 mm f/1.2L II USM is said to be quite a bit faster than the EF 85 mm f/1.2L USM, according to those who tried both.


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