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May 25, 2014 09:58 |  #16

Hello,

I am selling my 7D as I need to pay the bills. Once I am caught up I plan on the 6D or the 5D III, I want a full frame digital camera, my question is:

I am looking for something to shoot landscape, animals, people, and be creative with my shooting. Which would be best for these types of shooting?

I see all these threads on the pros and cons of the 6D and the 5D III, I don't want to nit pick it, I just want the camera the will do the best for what I want to shoot.

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May 25, 2014 10:12 |  #17

chunchma wrote in post #16928834 (external link)
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I am selling my 7D as I need to pay the bills.

If you need to sell your 7D to pay down bills purchasing the 5DIII is not for you.

If you want full frame aim for a second hand 6D.


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May 25, 2014 10:15 |  #18

booju wrote in post #16927398 (external link)
Pros/Cons Canon 6D vs 5DMKIII

I'll be using this to shoot all types of genres....sports, wildlife, ...

that kind of shooting IMHO, is greatly aided by an advanced AF system like that in the 1D series, or better yet, like that in the 5D3 and 1Dx.

Since you list those two genres first, I'd suggest that the 5D3 is the way to go in this case.


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May 27, 2014 16:15 |  #19

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #16928856 (external link)
that kind of shooting IMHO, is greatly aided by an advanced AF system like that in the 1D series, or better yet, like that in the 5D3 and 1Dx.

Since you list those two genres first, I'd suggest that the 5D3 is the way to go in this case.


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Yes I've decide on the 5DMK3!!!

Now I need to get a 1.6x crop.... 70d or 7d better start another thread to get the lo down on these 2 great cameras!!!




  
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May 27, 2014 16:46 |  #20

chunchma wrote in post #16928834 (external link)
Hello,

I am selling my 7D as I need to pay the bills. Once I am caught up I plan on the 6D or the 5D III, I want a full frame digital camera, my question is:

I am looking for something to shoot landscape, animals, people, and be creative with my shooting. Which would be best for these types of shooting?

I see all these threads on the pros and cons of the 6D and the 5D III, I don't want to nit pick it, I just want the camera the will do the best for what I want to shoot.

Thanks

I would think if you need to sell your 7d to pay bills, venturing in the FF world of bodies and expensive glass for them would not be a good choice, parentally speaking.;)




  
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May 27, 2014 21:05 as a reply to  @ post 16928562 |  #21

Here's a perhaps more controlled example at ISO 25600 from dpreview's comparison page.

http://i.imgur.com/ABR​jBTH.png (external link)

And 6400.

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That is fine, mine was also very controlled and side by side, 3 different shots, within 1/3 stop at 12800 and 1/2 at 25600. ;) DPreview's comparisons aren't done side by side in exactly the same conditions and same lighting. They have a studio corner set up and things get rearranged and lighting varies from one year to another.


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May 27, 2014 22:19 |  #22

DPreview's new studio scene is very controlled and accurate. This new scene's camera list features both the 6D and 5DIII, and comparison is very direct, you can even select same output size ("PRINT" view option). So at least for the 6D and 5DIII (and few more Canon bodies such as 70D) is an excellent way to compare. Too bad that the huge library of the old studio scene cannot be directly compared with the most of the new bodies since they're were only tested with the new studio scene (e.g. direct comparison of the 7D and 70D).


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May 27, 2014 22:24 |  #23

Lighting had to change over time, there is no way to guarantee exact conditions across a span of time. Software to process raw has to change over time as well. As time progresses, the comparisons across bodies will become more suspect. The comparisons redone in the new studio may be fine now, but new bodies next year, etc won't be so easily compared.

I choose to do direct side by side comparison at the same time with the same conditions which leaves a lot less to go wrong. My results are in line with about any other comparison, so there should not be any real dispute, should there?


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May 27, 2014 22:29 |  #24

TeamSpeed what makes you think that the lighting and the scene changes between the 6D and 5DIII tests? I mean those guys are pretty anal about this, and I'm sure they have figured out how to keep everything the same, from the scene to the lighting. And since the 6D and 5DIII weren't tested years apart, we have good reason to believe that the conditions were virtually the same.
Actually, the 6D and 5DIII can be compared in both the old and the new studio scene, they tested them in both. The results are the same, they are consistent.
I found pretty much the same in my own tests now that I own a 5DIII too. The 5DIII is great but I very reluctantly sold my 6D today, I'll miss its IQ. It's only a little better than the 5DIII, won't make or break an image, but credit should be given where due.


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May 27, 2014 22:43 |  #25

booju wrote in post #16927398 (external link)
Pros/Cons Canon 6D vs 5DMKIII

I'll be using this to shoot all types of genres....sports, wildlife, nature, and portraits.

And which has better files in your opinion?

The files are as near as makes no difference IMO. It all comes down to AF as far as I'm concerned. If you like/need a more sophisticated AF system then get the 5D, it's without a doubt a much more robust system. That said, the 6D works great for most people's needs, but it's no 5DIII, to some people that doesn't matter (I'm one of them), if you're not one of those people then get the 5D.

Some people on here also mentioned the bigger 5D screen, but forgot to mention the auto-brightness feature, both of which I would love on the 6D. The joystick is whatever, some people are obsessed with it for reasons that are beyond me, but the screen is a real advantage in my eyes.


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May 27, 2014 23:09 |  #26

I'm going to throw this question in here since it's related and op has come to his own conclusion..I'm also trying to decide on these cameras..i currently own a t4i and I'm pretty new to this..but I do want to upgrade to full frame ..mainly for better iso abilities..

I of course take pictures at family gatherings and that type of thing ..but on days i go out shooting it's out in the streets of nyc..street photography ..
I could get either but I won't pretend the difference in cost is chump change to me..
Will the 6d do well in street photography. ? I don't mind spending the extra thousand if I'll be better off and with less frustrations..everyone talks about the 5d3 having much better af and the 6d being nothing to special..will the 6d be an improvement over the t4i atleast?


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May 28, 2014 01:01 |  #27

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I'm going to throw this question in here since it's related and op has come to his own conclusion..I'm also trying to decide on these cameras..i currently own a t4i and I'm pretty new to this..but I do want to upgrade to full frame ..mainly for better iso abilities..

I of course take pictures at family gatherings and that type of thing ..but on days i go out shooting it's out in the streets of nyc..street photography ..
I could get either but I won't pretend the difference in cost is chump change to me..
Will the 6d do well in street photography. ? I don't mind spending the extra thousand if I'll be better off and with less frustrations..everyone talks about the 5d3 having much better af and the 6d being nothing to special..will the 6d be an improvement over the t4i atleast?

For street photography there's no reason to go for the 5D imo. I'd opt for an entirely different system for street though if it were me... to me small, light and inconspicuous are far more important than the AF system for street.


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TeamSpeed wrote in post #16934869 (external link)
Lighting had to change over time, there is no way to guarantee exact conditions across a span of time. Software to process raw has to change over time as well. As time progresses, the comparisons across bodies will become more suspect. The comparisons redone in the new studio may be fine now, but new bodies next year, etc won't be so easily compared.

I choose to do direct side by side comparison at the same time with the same conditions which leaves a lot less to go wrong. My results are in line with about any other comparison, so there should not be any real dispute, should there?

Why such 6D animosity? Sorry, but it's so very evident throughout this entire thread! Relax TS! The 5D3 is still an OK camera!


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Jun 07, 2014 08:45 |  #29

What animosity? I am simply stating that the only way to compare is eliminate as many factors that can vary over time as possible. When I compare, I have both bodies and shoot with the same lens at the same time with the same conditions. Being an engineer and loving science, it is the scientific principle behind testing. I have used both, but prefer the nimbleness and ergos of the 5D3 over the 6D.

For example, the 5D3 vs 6D at ISO 12800 with no post processing, no DPP NR shot with the same lens at the same time... They are quite close, somewhere around the 1/3 stop mark. At ISO 25600, the 6D is notably better though, the 5D3 starts to blotch out, and yes, I would say about 1/2 stop at that ISO level.

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Another one, too large to post, 100% crop here as well.

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http://teamspeed.smugm​ug.com …fNB/0/O/5d3vs6d​12800c.jpg (external link)

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Jun 07, 2014 09:20 |  #30

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For example, the 5D3 vs 6D at ISO 12800 with no post processing, no DPP NR shot with the same lens at the same time... They are quite close, somewhere around the 1/3 stop mark. At ISO 25600, the 6D is notably better though, the 5D3 starts to blotch out, and yes, I would say about 1/2 stop at that ISO level.

So who cares?? All your examples are too much noise to be usable IMO. I suspect that if someone is a pixel peeper, the 6D has slightly better ISO at those insane levels. But then if ISO is everything to you, you should jump ship and get Nikon: not the 6D or 5DIII. I also suspect that in most situations, the IQ of the 5DmkIII and 6D would be on par with one another. The 6D has slightly newer sensor technology and has slightly larger photosites (due to the 2MP loss). I would think the slight IQ differences would also level out after post (if you sample the 5D's resolution down to 6D and apply unsharp mask).

When upgrading my FF, I didn't spend much time deciding. The 5D/6D has always been a great portrait camera. It's usable with action, but I did find occasions where I would have liked a more robust AF. There really was no other option for me, and I'm very impressed with the viewfinder/AF/speed of the 5DIII. Of course it also comes at a price. The 6D is better value (gives you pretty much the same IQ), and certainly seems like a good intro FF camera.


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