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My transition from 5 lenses to 3. My zoom vs. prime decisions are over.

 
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Jun 06, 2014 17:27 |  #391

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I would imagine that 200mm reach kinda hard to use, and pretty specialized for smaller field sports. Anyhow, I'm building a pretty stout kit right now, and probably overgeared ;)

3 primes, 4 zooms...... range from 14-600 with only 1mm gap....

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Jun 11, 2014 09:25 |  #392

Semi related; my debate:

Current:
17-40L+50L

Options:
1. Sell 17-40L, buy 16-35 f/4L.

2. Sell 17-40L && 50L, buy 24-70Lmkii. (I have Rok 14mm if needed).

Decisions Decisions.. :) I lean toward getting the new f/4 UWA I think; more useful for travel.


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Jun 11, 2014 16:07 |  #393

^ Definately Option 1
While the 24-70L II is a great lens, it will not replace the photos you take with the 16-35L and 50L combo.
I think the 16-35L is a good replacement for the 17-40L and will be much sharper.


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Jun 11, 2014 16:35 |  #394

InfiniteDivide wrote in post #16965957 (external link)
^ Definately Option 1
While the 24-70L II is a great lens, it will not replace the photos you take with the 16-35L and 50L combo.
I think the 16-35L is a good replacement for the 17-40L and will be much sharper.

50mm 1.2 DOF at 2m = 0.11 m
70mm 2.8 DOF at 2m = 0.13 m

Not a huge difference IMHO.
Additionally the 24-70mm II way out performs the 17-40mm at 24mm, in fact it's performance is on par with the 24mm II prime. And a 14mm wide prime is nicer to have than a zoom that stops at 17mm.


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Jun 11, 2014 16:42 |  #395

w0m wrote in post #16965098 (external link)
Semi related; my debate:

Current:
17-40L+50L

Options:
1. Sell 17-40L, buy 16-35 f/4L.

2. Sell 17-40L && 50L, buy 24-70Lmkii. (I have Rok 14mm if needed).

Decisions Decisions.. :) I lean toward getting the new f/4 UWA I think; more useful for travel.

if those are the only two lenses you have, I think option 1 is best.
but we don't know what you you shoot.

Mornnb wrote in post #16965994 (external link)
50mm 1.2 DOF at 2m = 0.11 m
70mm 2.8 DOF at 2m = 0.13 m

Not a huge difference IMHO.

I hear ya.
24-70 2.8 zoom is helping a lot, with the extra events I picked up, obviously.
But I am also very pleased with what I've seen from my zoom, when used during portrait sessions (that previously, would have been shot with the 85L or 50L).

I just did a bat mitzvah saturday night. and it was great to have the flexibility, coupled with my flash.
btw, this was the first bat mitzvah I'd ever been to in my life, let alone shoot.
great party!

I'm keeping my 50L for my low light lens.


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Jun 11, 2014 16:48 |  #396

I consider selling my 24LII all the time for a 24-70 II but the 24 is so good I doubt I could part with it. Even wide open its very sharp but its a specialty lens so I know the 24-70 would be more practical.


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Jun 11, 2014 16:54 |  #397

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I consider selling my 24LII all the time for a 24-70 II but the 24 is so good I doubt I could part with it. Even wide open its very sharp but its a specialty lens so I know the 24-70 would be more practical.

if you're cps, borrow one from canon, you won't regret it.
it's only going to cost you for shipping it back to them.
if you're not cps, join for a year, get your stuff cleaned for free, cancel at the end of the year.
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but the main thing is, you get to borrow lenses, bodies, etc for a week. and it's easy!


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Jun 11, 2014 17:06 |  #398

A friend of mine suggested that too. I might do it.

I'm sure I'll like it. I had the original 24-70 and I liked it too. I just can't justify 24/50 and 24-70. No way I'l part with my 50 and as much a specialty lens the 24 is, it does get a lot of use.


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Jun 11, 2014 17:46 |  #399

w0m wrote in post #16965098 (external link)
Semi related; my debate:

Current:
17-40L+50L

Options:
1. Sell 17-40L, buy 16-35 f/4L.

2. Sell 17-40L && 50L, buy 24-70Lmkii. (I have Rok 14mm if needed).

Decisions Decisions.. :) I lean toward getting the new f/4 UWA I think; more useful for travel.

I'de stay with option 1, simply because I have something similar to option 2 right now, and I'm not very happy with it. 14 + 24-70 would be excellent, IF the 14 could take regular 100x100 filters. Unfortunately, it does not, and I refuse to get samyang's filter system. With that lens, I basically wait till light is perfect and start using it. Been surviving the past few months with this combo for landscapes, and I get seriously annoyed not being able to use my filters when I need it. My brother and I share the 17TSE when we're shooting, and I really dont want to borrow his lens WHILE we're shooting.

of course when all is said and done, I'll have 14, 16-35F4IS, 50L, and 24-70VC..... haha. I will likely get rid of the 14 when I get the 16-35, so I'm not tempted to bring it with me everywhere.

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A friend of mine suggested that too. I might do it.

I'm sure I'll like it. I had the original 24-70 and I liked it too. I just can't justify 24/50 and 24-70. No way I'l part with my 50 and as much a specialty lens the 24 is, it does get a lot of use.

smaller school/church events, my 24-70/50 + 135 is my goto kit. Incredible combo, and that wont change I'm sure.


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Jun 11, 2014 19:38 |  #400

Tommydigi wrote in post #16966067 (external link)
I just can't justify 24/50 and 24-70. No way I'l part with my 50 and as much a specialty lens the 24 is, it does get a lot of use.

^ I feel the exact same way.


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Jun 11, 2014 20:29 |  #401

My transition to 53 lenses is done. I am so relieved. Woo. I think I will work on Transition to 60 pretty soon.


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Jun 12, 2014 05:16 |  #402

Tommydigi wrote in post #16966021 (external link)
I consider selling my 24LII all the time for a 24-70 II but the 24 is so good I doubt I could part with it. Even wide open its very sharp but its a specialty lens so I know the 24-70 would be more practical.

There's not a lot of difference in sharpness between the 24mm L and the 24-70mm II.

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Jun 12, 2014 07:01 |  #403

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My transition to 53 lenses is done. I am so relieved. Woo. I think I will work on Transition to 60 pretty soon.

I have a ways to go to catch up to you. I've recently completed my transition from 3 lenses to 5. ;)


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Jun 12, 2014 08:46 |  #404

Mornnb, I understand they are close at 2.8 but the prime has some advantages. 1.4, smaller size, weight, smaller filters. Sometimes I use the 24 on my 60D and its a lot like having a 35L too. If the price drops again around holiday time maybe I'll get the zoom. I think its more about justifying having both. not either or.


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Jun 12, 2014 09:14 |  #405

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Mornnb, I understand they are close at 2.8 but the prime has some advantages. 1.4, smaller size, weight, smaller filters. Sometimes I use the 24 on my 60D and its a lot like having a 35L too. If the price drops again around holiday time maybe I'll get the zoom. I think its more about justifying having both. not either or.

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