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Jun 11, 2014 05:37 |  #31

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Jun 11, 2014 06:56 |  #32

One thing I have to ask is have any (or all) of these images been taken with some form of filter on the lens? But having said that, the images at first glance appear fine (as others have noted). However, I recently took an image of an old car, bright sun, and cropped out the license plate only (from the RAW), then viewed that image at 200% as in DPP. That image has a soft appearance as would be expected at that magnification. What I think might be of significance is the edges of the license plate text beciase they are soft, no jagged edges, almost giving the impression of film. If I take the OP's image titled "28 mm at f8 a.jpg" and just crop out the sign with the "7118" and view that at 200% there is a significant difference. To my eyes I see the beginnings of well defined jagged edges of the individual pixels. I think this might be apparent in the attachment.

I'm not throughly into the ramifications of me using RAW and the OP using JPG, but I do detect a visible difference that could be perceived as loss of sharpness. Having said that, the level of magnification for the test images is extreme.




  
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Jun 11, 2014 07:28 as a reply to  @ John from PA's post |  #33

For a 30D they are fine. I did take note up on some of the first ones your neighbor needs to weed and feed his lawn though, might want to pass that on. Seriously, they look ok.


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Jun 11, 2014 07:38 |  #34

Viewing images zoomed in at 100% for the anally inclined is bad business.

The images look fine to me for the most part.




  
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Jun 11, 2014 10:44 as a reply to  @ i-G12's post |  #35

Thanks for input. Maybe they are fine and it is just me. As someone suggested, I will display a few pictures tonight of the same subject, but "zoomed" in to 100%.




  
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Jun 11, 2014 11:02 |  #36

May I suggest a couple more steps?

Look in your archives and pick some photos from the time that the lens/camera combo were 'sharp'. Post full resolution photos (Flickr can do it and so does Photobucket) so we can take a look. Both old and 'new' photos.

You haven't answered the question whether you post-process from RAW or you take the jpeg straight out of the camera. Please let us know.

Lastly, I would recommend that you go to your user panel in the forum and allow image editing. Then you can see how other members of the forum can post-process your examples


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Jun 11, 2014 11:03 |  #37

Bruce as some others have suggested I would also think that a trip to the opticians might be in order. Vision problems often sneak up on us unawares though.

For a 30D those images look fine. I have a 20D (same sensor) and shooting RAW and looking at images at 100% with no sharpening at all, even shots done with L series lenses, they can seem a little soft. Add appropriate sharpening though and they are razor sharp, well unless I've cocked something else up.

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Jun 11, 2014 15:16 |  #38

they look ok
but if you want more details for the portrait photos use a speedlight or reflectors


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Jun 11, 2014 18:33 as a reply to  @ moltengold's post |  #39

Thanks again for all you comments. Maybe it is just my glasses :D When I look at these two photos they look soft (number on mailbox look soft and guard on pic looks soft) (out of focus?). Both photos were taken with the camera set to portrait mode, so some sharpening was applied (didn't realize I was in portrait mode at the time). The mailbox photo was taken with a tripod and a shutter delay. The other pic was handle held with a shutter speed of 250. Both pics were taken with the iso set at 100% and exposure compensation at zero. The jpeg version of both pics were opened in Photoshop, cropped and saved as a jpeg (resolution of 12). Thanks again for you input. I just don't want to have to buy another camera or have my lens calibrated if I don't have to. Canon 30d doesn't do micro-adjustments.


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Jun 11, 2014 18:51 |  #40

Bruce R wrote in post #16966279 (external link)
When I look at these two photos they look soft (number on mailbox look soft and guard on pic looks soft) (out of focus?). Both photos were taken with the camera set to portrait mode, so some sharpening was applied (didn't realize I was in portrait mode at the time). The mailbox photo was taken with a tripod and a shutter delay.

The first one (taken at f/8.0) looks fine. The second photo (taken at f/2.8) does look soft. You're showing a 100% crop of the bottom right corner (as shown on post #25) of a frame taken at f/2.8. Most lenses (at wide open aperture) produce soft images so I think that's expected.




  
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Jun 11, 2014 21:50 as a reply to  @ morph2_7's post |  #41

Most photos look fine, considering its an older camera, and not the very very, best lens, IQ wise.
Except the guard -.that could be you are pushing it at f2.8 or maybe a little bit of motion blur? and some of them are a tad underexposed.

Being serious - defo check out an optician, eyes can slowly or suddenly change.


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Jun 11, 2014 21:59 |  #42
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Bruce R wrote in post #16963978 (external link)
It's just when you zoom in 100%, they seem to be off.

Oh. My. God.

I hope I never catch this bug.


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Jun 12, 2014 07:47 |  #43

Bruce, I think you have compounded your problem with the Portrait Style.

Portrait has a Sharpness level of 2/7 and contrast 0 out of + 4.

The Standard profile has Sharpness 3/7 and the Landscape profile 4/7. (These are profiles off my 60D).

I made a custom profile, starting with the Standard (I believe the starting point is important, because it affects the color balance).

Profile: Standard

Sharpness: 6/7

Contrast: +1

Saturation : 0

Skin Tone: -1

Saved it as Custom 1

It works for me and the photos are sharp.


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Jun 12, 2014 10:19 |  #44

I assume these are in camera profiles? Never ever investigated the camera settings, I always wait until I'm post processing on the computer.


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Jun 12, 2014 11:33 |  #45

Richard, if you are referring to my post above yours, yes. You can edit the Picture Style (in essence they are in-camera profiles for jpeg processing). It seems that the OP is using strictly jpeg.


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