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Jun 17, 2014 03:27 |  #1

Hi Guys

which should I be using ?
What shortcomings or benefits are there for either one?
I just noticed tonite that my 5D3 has been set to sRGB

I use Elements 11 for the majority of my editing, if that makes any difference ?

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Jun 17, 2014 03:44 |  #2

Based on personal experience, if you don't want to spend the time to fully understand and manage this then stick to sRGB. I shoot raw in any case so I only need jpg for web and print as a final step.




  
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Jun 17, 2014 03:44 |  #3

Davenn wrote in post #16976467 (external link)
Hi Guys

which should I be using ?
What shortcomings or benefits are there for either one?
I just noticed tonite that my 5D3 has been set to sRGB

I use Elements 11 for the majority of my editing, if that makes any difference ?

thanks lots

Dave

It matters for what you print. Wherever you take your images to print them, will have instructions that tell you what color space to use. Some printers are at an advantage in sRGB, more others look better in AdobeRGB, and other printers will look best in ProPhotoRGB. You just have to research which one you need for what you use to print.

One important thing to note, is that you can convert an image in the AdobeRGB color space to sRGB without losing any color information, but if you try to convert sRGB to AdobeRGB, you will lose color information in the process. So for that reason, I put my color space in AdobeRGB if I am shooting my camera in JPG mode and not RAW.




  
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Jun 17, 2014 04:00 |  #4

Stick to sRGB because if you value your sanity and time it's not worth going to anything unless you print. I messed around for a wee while using PROphotRGB and when I viewed my pics on iOS devices and chrome they had a green hue to them. Went straight back to sRGB right away but I wasted a lot of time.




  
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Jun 17, 2014 04:01 |  #5

Thanks for the responses :)

please excuse my ignorance here ...

these 2 colour settings apply only to jpg ? ... that is, it isn't part of the RAW data ?
I always shoot RAW + jpg. For lots of the general stuff, I will use the jpg out of the camera .. uploading to www site, social media etc
If I want much better jpg quality, I will process the RAW and save as jpg in E 11

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Jun 17, 2014 04:03 |  #6

OK Paul

thanks ... you posted whilst I was still typing .... so from your and CRC's comments,
'this has more to do with image printing than anything else ?

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Jun 17, 2014 04:54 |  #7

Davenn wrote in post #16976498 (external link)
OK Paul

so from your and CRC's comments,
'this has more to do with image printing than anything else ?

Not just printing. If you are putting images on the web, it should be sRGB as the web is not really optimized for anything else. Unless you have a good monitor with a wide gamut, it might not even see the full spectrum of AdobeRGB.

You can work in AdobeRGB or ProPhoto RGB then convert it depending on where it will be viewed. So if it's going on the web, convert it to sRGB.

So to answer your question, I would shoot in AdobeRGB, work in AdobeRGB (Lightroom for example) then convert it to sRGB in post.

This explains it better than I could.
http://fstoppers.com/a​dobergb-vs-srgb (external link)

A little about ProPhotoRGB
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorial​s/prophoto-rgb.shtml (external link)


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Jun 17, 2014 05:23 |  #8

thanks lots for your comments and links

It has been one of those thing I have known the existence of for years, but never had stopped to consider the differences till now. Tho hadn't heard of ProPhotoRGB till tonite :)

Appreciate everyone's input

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Jun 17, 2014 05:53 |  #9

Gregg.Siam wrote in post #16976527 (external link)
Not just printing. If you are putting images on the web, it should be sRGB as the web is not really optimized for anything else. Unless you have a good monitor with a wide gamut, it might not even see the full spectrum of AdobeRGB.

You can work in AdobeRGB or ProPhoto RGB then convert it depending on where it will be viewed. So if it's going on the web, convert it to sRGB.

So to answer your question, I would shoot in AdobeRGB, work in AdobeRGB (Lightroom for example) then convert it to sRGB in post.

This explains it better than I could.
http://fstoppers.com/a​dobergb-vs-srgb (external link)

A little about ProPhotoRGB
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorial​s/prophoto-rgb.shtml (external link)

Exactly what I do ... if you shoot in Adobe RGB and have that RAW, you have the flexibility to remain in that gamut throughout post-processing, or change to sRGB if that is required at any point.

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Jun 17, 2014 07:06 |  #10

Paulstw wrote in post #16976494 (external link)
I messed around for a wee while using PROphotRGB and when I viewed my pics on iOS devices and chrome they had a green hue to them. Went straight back to sRGB right away but I wasted a lot of time.

Is a "wee while" similar to a wee peek? Leave it to the Black Watch!


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Jun 17, 2014 08:55 |  #11

The only time I use sRGB is when I post an image on the web. The rest of the time I use AdobeRGB.

It simply produces a better print on a printer that can use it, which my Epson R2880 can and does.


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Jun 17, 2014 09:49 |  #12

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Is a "wee while" similar to a wee peek? Leave it to the Black Watch!

lol it is indeed.

Wee = short while.




  
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Jun 17, 2014 13:46 |  #13

Lowner wrote in post #16976843 (external link)
The only time I use sRGB is when I post an image on the web. The rest of the time I use AdobeRGB.

It simply produces a better print on a printer that can use it, which my Epson R2880 can and does.

If you save to AdobeRGB an image that fits entirely into the sRGB gamut, you only get an image file with a lower number of colors (about 30% less, but depends on image) and no printer can bring them back.

That's due to the fact that for a given color depth (bit depth), the wider the color space, the smaller color resolution.

In fact, by using a wider color space than the image actually requires, you are making available an additional set of colors which the image has no use for - at the expense of the number of available color shades within the gamut region that the image is actually feeding on.




  
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Jun 17, 2014 13:57 |  #14

John from PA wrote in post #16976647 (external link)
Is a "wee while" similar to a wee peek? Leave it to the Black Watch!

Guess it's true what they say about men who wear kilts.:lol:


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Jun 17, 2014 15:05 |  #15

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Guess it's true what they say about men who wear kilts.:lol:

The Scots actually have a name for it; when wearing the kilt, it is customary for troops to "go regimental" or "military practice" meaning no underwear. The Black Watch (in the picture) are notorious at adhering to tradition.




  
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