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Hassy with CMOS sensor...??? What do you think? :)

 
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Jun 04, 2014 16:39 |  #31

jetcode wrote in post #16951857 (external link)
To be honest if you have controlled lighting film works great. It always did. Not as immediate if you shoot a lot (in which case a high performance tool is gold). I've been shooting and printing film and loving it. Film still works and that Hassy (501CM) is a great camera.

I want to move away from film - as I need to get away from the vapors of a darkroom as my wife cannot handle the fumes, aromas, and particulates - no matter how well filtered.

Besides, a DB would allow for a lot more wear and tear on those leaf shutters (:p) - than I could ever inflict using film.




  
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Jun 04, 2014 16:54 |  #32

daleg wrote in post #16951901 (external link)
I want to move away from film - as I need to get away from the vapors of a darkroom as my wife cannot handle the fumes, aromas, and particulates - no matter how well filtered.

Besides, a DB would allow for a lot more wear and tear on those leaf shutters (:p) - than I could ever inflict using film.

No darkroom. I do develop my own B/W but that is such an easy process. All color goes to the lab. I scan on a Cezanne Elite, post in PS, and Aspen Creek for prints. All CCD backs will generate CCD bloom in hard direct light. That's why they work well for studio but not so well for landscape featuring the sun or street with bright lights.




  
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Jun 04, 2014 23:14 |  #33

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No darkroom. I do develop my own B/W but that is such an easy process. All color goes to the lab. I scan on a Cezanne Elite, post in PS, and Aspen Creek for prints. All CCD backs will generate CCD bloom in hard direct light. That's why they work well for studio but not so well for landscape featuring the sun or street with bright lights.

$30K for a scanner is a bit outta reach - for now. gulp.




  
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Jun 05, 2014 00:10 |  #34

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I keep thinking about putting a digital back on a V-system camera.

I've been advised to consider the phase one P40+ on a 501CM - about $8k used (for the P40+). I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the 645 crop factor. hmmm. this back has ISO ranges of 100-800 or 400-3200 in "plus" mode (sensor is normally 40MP, but can switch to 10MP mode at higher ISO sensitivities).

Anybody have any experience with this combo? or know of anybody who has shot with this?

Tempting. Very.

i dont have that exact combo but here are my thoughts.

manual focusing is very hard with digital. especially if you're shooting hand held with wide apertures. it was much easier with film. a lot of people give up on digital 500 blads because of the focusing problems. and moving people.. forget about it. i have a 503cw + winder and acute matte split prism screen and my keeper rate is probably about 50% when shooting natural light portraits at f/4ish (would be less if i didn't have the autowinder) and i consider myself a good manual focuser.

this is a good article on why it's hard to focus http://www.josephholme​s.com/news-sharpmediumformat.html (external link)

i think it's wiser to get a body that focuses well like a phase1 645df+ or hassy h4dx.

but if you are shooting landscapes then it doesn't matter.

the p40+ is a crop sensor so an 80mm lens is about a 62mm equivalent on a 35mm camera instead of 50mm. and a 40mm is about 31mm instead of the normal 24mm.

a much better value is the leaf aptus 75. less of a crop factor and has a better screen. if you want one hour exposures then get the p45+


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Jun 05, 2014 10:19 |  #35

daleg wrote in post #16952608 (external link)
$30K for a scanner is a bit outta reach - for now. gulp.

I paid $4500 for mine and it's like new. You can get a nice scanner for under a $1000.




  
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Jun 18, 2014 01:10 |  #36

bespoke wrote in post #16952699 (external link)
i dont have that exact combo but here are my thoughts.

manual focusing is very hard with digital. especially if you're shooting hand held with wide apertures. it was much easier with film. a lot of people give up on digital 500 blads because of the focusing problems. and moving people.. forget about it. i have a 503cw + winder and acute matte split prism screen and my keeper rate is probably about 50% when shooting natural light portraits at f/4ish (would be less if i didn't have the autowinder) and i consider myself a good manual focuser.

this is a good article on why it's hard to focus http://www.josephholme​s.com/news-sharpmediumformat.html (external link)

i think it's wiser to get a body that focuses well like a phase1 645df+ or hassy h4dx.

but if you are shooting landscapes then it doesn't matter.

the p40+ is a crop sensor so an 80mm lens is about a 62mm equivalent on a 35mm camera instead of 50mm. and a 40mm is about 31mm instead of the normal 24mm.

a much better value is the leaf aptus 75. less of a crop factor and has a better screen. if you want one hour exposures then get the p45+

thanks for the insight. as an old hassy film guy, I've been searching for info on using a DB on a hassy V for a while now. it's an intriguing concept - but obviously, based on present (non-) usage in the community - it's a concept largely not in present favor.

the thought of such high quality images - - oh well, doesn't hurt to dream.




  
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Jun 18, 2014 01:32 |  #37

jetcode wrote in post #16953384 (external link)
I paid $4500 for mine and it's like new. You can get a nice scanner for under a $1000.

can you provide any info on such scanners?

I currently have a cannon flatbed 9000f & a Fuji document scanner - for our paperless archives.

the flatbed hasn't lived up to its potential - or so I suspect.




  
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Jun 23, 2014 09:58 |  #38

daleg wrote in post #16978733 (external link)
can you provide any info on such scanners?

I currently have a cannon flatbed 9000f & a Fuji document scanner - for our paperless archives.

the flatbed hasn't lived up to its potential - or so I suspect.

Polaroid SprintScan 120 (aka Microtek ArtixScan 120tf). A bit rare, but VERY good.


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