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Jun 23, 2014 11:07 |  #46
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I use full frame when I want thin DOF and/or need better ISO performance. My crop is for those occasions when I need deeper DOF. Other than that, I use them interchangeably.


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Jun 23, 2014 12:04 |  #47

moltengold wrote in post #16988990 (external link)
at the end it's a photo and stay a photo :)

I don't understand this statement. Would you please be so kind as to explain what this means?


"Your" and "you're" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"They're", "their", and "there" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"Fare" and "fair" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one. The proper expression is "moot point", NOT "mute point".

  
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Jun 23, 2014 12:44 |  #48

Went from a Nikon D7000 to my 5DIII and 6D. I'll probably never go back to crop again and If I need reach, i'll thrown in a 1.4x extender


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Jun 23, 2014 12:56 |  #49

I keep my 60D in the car so that I always have a body ready whenever something unexpected, or I stumble across a new spot. The 5DMKIII I use mainly for paid gigs and for planned shooting. And I recently found having both was invaluable doing a video shoot. Was able capture from 2 angles.


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Jun 23, 2014 13:57 |  #50

I use crop when I know I will crop a lot, like the moon shots or something really distant. Otherwise, I just stick with FF. I own only 1 crop lens, EF-M 22mm. FF zoom lenses are usually odd focal lengths on crop, so I stick with FF. No crop factor to worry about or specialized presets for crops.


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Jun 23, 2014 18:32 |  #51

Tom Reichner wrote in post #16989621 (external link)
I don't understand this statement. Would you please be so kind as to explain what this means?

sure
I want to convince myself that I can live with a crop body
and the FF is over my needs
and the topic question says that do you ever shoot with a crop body ?
his question made me thinking of my old crop bodies when I was shooting everyday
now my gear are always in the bag and I'm so lazy to shoot
big heavy like a monster


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Jun 23, 2014 20:32 |  #52

They both have their place, just depends on your needs. I own a full-frame, a regular crop DSLR, and an EOS M. For personal use the M has actually ended up being the one I use the most lately in spite of having a bigger, fancier camera. I'm content with it most of the time because it still takes amazing images and is more convenient to tote around. The bigger sensor is important at times but it's not a trump card -- not all the time anyway.


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Jun 23, 2014 22:08 |  #53

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #16989505 (external link)
I use full frame when I want thin DOF and/or need better ISO performance. My crop is for those occasions when I need deeper DOF. Other than that, I use them interchangeably.

I echo those sentiments

My Pentax K5 is a very good camera. But it doesn't hold a candle to the 5D3 in low light situations.
My wife mainly uses the K5 nowdays and is learning photography well :)

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Jun 23, 2014 23:04 |  #54

1D4 45%
5D3 35%
7D 20%

7D will see less use as I replace the ef-s gear with ef.


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Jun 24, 2014 00:15 |  #55

I use all 3 cameras. 7D for sports when I have more control over lighting or need the reach. 5D3 when I can be sure to fill the frame with subject and sometimes when that slightly better sensitivity and AF performance is useful. 550D as a general spare (I actually did a portrait shoot with it because the 7D was in use for some sports work at the same time and I didn't have the 5D3 yet). There is considerable overlap between the cameras' capabilities, and I find image quality comparable among them.


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Jun 24, 2014 16:49 as a reply to  @ GregDunn's post |  #56

I use my 1.3X crop 1DMk3 when:
1) Shooting sports
2) When I expect or fear bad weather
3) If I want to use my Sigma 8-16mm and Rokinon 8mm Fisheye
4) When I suspect I will need as much reach as possible (728mm max for me)

I reach for the FF 5DMk3 when:
1) I know the light will be dim
2) I want a lighter body to hump along than the 1DMk3 "brick"
3) I expect to shot faces and portraits
4) If I am shooting animals (fur detail etc.) up close
5) When I plan to shoot off a tripod using live view
6) When I shoot landscapes
7) When I take along a 17-40 and 24-105 as a walk-around combo

Just off the top of may head ...

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Jun 24, 2014 16:52 as a reply to  @ Maxdave's post |  #57

I shoot both, preferring the crop for good light and lighter weight (Hiking) and full frame for studio or indoor sports. This video gives you a good idea of the limitations of crop and how to mitigate them: http://blog.planet5d.c​om …their-lenses/?hvid=1LVxFW (external link)


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Jun 24, 2014 20:07 |  #58

7D 80% for birding, drag racing, rodeos 18000 shots
5D2 10% landscapes, birding ............... 2500 shots
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Jun 24, 2014 22:13 |  #59

Vertigo1 wrote in post #16988746 (external link)
I think a lot depends on which full frame body you have. The 7D and 5D2 complement each other quite well I think as the 7D offers far superior AF for shooting moving targets.

I have a 5D3 and I'm finding I've not used the 7D much at all since. The only real advantage the 7D has is the crop factor.


I used to think the same way when I first got my 5DIII but as much as I love it if I'm photographing wildlife at any distance where I cant get close enough (and the most focal length I have is 400mm and a 1X4 TC), I have found as long as the light is Ok the 7D still does a better job. I would rather a lightly cropped 7D shot to a heavily cropped 5D3 shot. Both cameras have their uses and I will admit to a complete love affair with 5DIII when I first got it. However once the initial thrill wore off and I looked at the best uses for each camera I began to use my 7D again. Just waiting for 7DII to come out now


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Jun 25, 2014 00:08 |  #60

aladyforty wrote in post #16992769 (external link)
I used to think the same way when I first got my 5DIII but as much as I love it if I'm photographing wildlife at any distance where I cant get close enough (and the most focal length I have is 400mm and a 1X4 TC), I have found as long as the light is Ok the 7D still does a better job. I would rather a lightly cropped 7D shot to a heavily cropped 5D3 shot. Both cameras have their uses and I will admit to a complete love affair with 5DIII when I first got it. However once the initial thrill wore off and I looked at the best uses for each camera I began to use my 7D again. Just waiting for 7DII to come out now

I agree here.

I've seen tons of argument by full frame wildlife shooters that they will take a cropped wildlife image over an APS-C with the same lens, cropping less to not at all. But I've just not seen photographic evidence, rather, I've only really seen repeatable images that APS-C with telephoto, cropping less, simply produces the better image, at least, to me. So my APS-C lives on my 600mm. My full frame lives with F1.4~F2 lenses attached, that are wider angle (28mm to 85mm tops).

So at the end of the day, I use APS-C for macro & wildlife. And full frame for the rest.

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