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24-105 or 3 non-L primes?

 
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Jun 27, 2014 12:22 |  #16

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These are good recommendations. I would only change the 50mm to a 60mm 2.8 macro. I have many L lenses and the 60mm macro is sharper than all of them. Plus you get the use of a macro. And I certainly thought the 100mm f2 was a better all around lens than the 85mm 1.8. Less CA wide open, plus you get a slightly longer focal length which is nice if you also have a 50mm or 60mm lens. The 100mm f2 had nicer bokeh than the 85mm 1.8 as well. You can get some of these lenses used at great prices. Used, I've seen the 28mm 2.8 IS for $350. And I've seen used 60mm macro lenses going for $275 which is an incredible buy. So, my choices are ---

28mm 2.8 IS
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Interesting take on the macro lens. I've always wanted to to play with macro photography too.

My question is this; if I were to choose this lens over the 50 1.4 would I still get sharp shots wide open with it and how does the bokeh look compared to an f1.x lens?

Just realized that macro lens is an EF-S. I'll be getting a FF body. Is the 100mm Macro a good choice as well?


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Jun 27, 2014 12:27 as a reply to  @ post 16997827 |  #17

IMHO an f4 lens needs to be complimented with faster primes while a 2.8 zoom could stand alone.


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Jun 27, 2014 12:35 |  #18

I'm thinking I may go with the body only, get the 50mm 1.4 and 100mm 2.8 Macro now. And then get a wide angle a littler later down the road, maybe the wife will pick one up for me for Christmas. I feel like 50mm and 100mm focal lengths should cover the majority of what I want to do now.


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Jun 27, 2014 13:01 |  #19

i don't what it is about the 24-105/4 but its my most used lens on any of my cameras,doze not matter if its APC or full frame i always seem to grab this zoom.


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Jun 27, 2014 13:13 |  #20

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If I where you I would buy the 35/2.0 IS and the 85/1.8 or 100/2.0.

That is what I have on my 6D....35 f2 IS and 85 f1.8. I also have a 24-105 and the only time I ever use it is for the 24mm wide end.




  
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Jun 27, 2014 13:14 |  #21

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i don't what it is about the 24-105/4 but its my most used lens on any of my cameras,doze not matter if its APC or full frame i always seem to grab this zoom.

Same here. I'm really happy with the results I get with it.

Between the 24-105 and a 24-70 f/2.8, the DoF at 105mm at f/4 is pretty close to DoF at 70mm at f/2.8 if you adjust subject distance for the same framing. f/2.8 has a slight edge, but you get a lot more subject separation than you think from the 24-105 on the long end.

The huge zoom range is so nice.


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Jun 27, 2014 16:32 |  #22

None of you are making this any easier. :p


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Jun 27, 2014 17:57 |  #23

Primes are really nice to use. The first 3 lenses I bought for my 5D were 35L, 100L and 85 Sigma. Also owned a nifty fifty. I resisted buying zooms as I loved what primes can do.

I still love what primes can do, but ended up selling my 35L to fund a 24-70 and now I rarely use primes.

Depends on what you shoot. A prime kit can work for some, especially if you have time to set up your shots. If you (like me) work best on the fly, then zooms are the better option.

All lenses you mention are great quality, nobody but yourself with your own experience can determine which is the better option.


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Jun 27, 2014 18:20 |  #24

I would get the 24-70L II if Canon weren't asking - in my opinion - what's a ridiculously unwarranted price for it, as it looks like a great piece of glass.


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Jun 27, 2014 18:32 |  #25

ThePwnyExpress wrote in post #16997857 (external link)
Interesting take on the macro lens. I've always wanted to to play with macro photography too.

My question is this; if I were to choose this lens over the 50 1.4 would I still get sharp shots wide open with it and how does the bokeh look compared to an f1.x lens?

Just realized that macro lens is an EF-S. I'll be getting a FF body. Is the 100mm Macro a good choice as well?

Yes the 100mm 2.8 macro is excellent. It doesn't do portraits as well as the 100mm f2 but then again the f2 does not have macro capabilities. There are 2 100mm 2.8 macro lenses, the old version without IS and the new L version with IS. The image quality of both lenses is the same. If you do photos in churches or museums, the L version with IS is what you need, as that IS really comes in handy. If you don't need the IS, you can save a lot by getting the non IS version. Used, I've seen it sell for under $350, and that's a great price!




  
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Jun 27, 2014 18:38 |  #26

To the OP:
I would choose the 24mm 2.8, 50 1.4 and the 100mm macro.
They each have their own strengths that cannot be achieved with the 24-105L.
For some the convenience of a zoom is absolutely necessary to their type of photography.
For me I enjoy primes wide open and crop my images if needed.

If I were you I would skip the 24-105 and buy one for about $600 used later if you 'need it'
Get either the 35 IS and 85 1.8 combo or the 24, 50 100 trio take you suggested.


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Jun 27, 2014 18:41 |  #27

ThePwnyExpress wrote in post #16998447 (external link)
I would get the 24-70L II if Canon weren't asking - in my opinion - what's a ridiculously unwarranted price for it, as it looks like a great piece of glass.

If you can deal with the backwards turning zoom and focus rings, a pain if MF video is a thing for you, then the Tamron 24-70 VC is an excellent alternative.


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Jun 27, 2014 18:50 |  #28

Just get the kit, if you buy as a kit you get the 24-105L for under $500,if you don't like it Zell it for a profit and get the primes (like I did).


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Jun 27, 2014 19:15 |  #29

Ok.... final decision has been made. I'm going to get the kit and see how I like the 24-105. I am also going to buy a 50mm 1.4 because I feel like a fast 50 is a quintessential piece of glass to have in the collection.

Thank you so much for your thoughts and suggestions!


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Jun 27, 2014 19:31 |  #30
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slookx24 wrote in post #16997943 (external link)
That is what I have on my 6D....35 f2 IS and 85 f1.8. I also have a 24-105 and the only time I ever use it is for the 24mm wide end.


I'd sell the 24-105 and get a 24 2.8 IS.


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