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Jun 27, 2014 16:19 |  #1

He almost walk away without interruption until the supervisor stopped him and tried to "borrow" his camera :)

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Jun 27, 2014 16:35 |  #2

Great Video!




  
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Jun 27, 2014 18:10 as a reply to  @ Patrick_E's post |  #3

"What am i being arrested for"?

...silence...

"What, do you think i make things up"? :rolleyes: :mad:


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Jun 27, 2014 18:58 |  #4

Nice!


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Jun 27, 2014 18:59 as a reply to  @ 1Tanker's post |  #5

Awesome video. Rule number 1, if the cops ASK your permission, they generally need it legally.
After the second refusal to hand over the camera it would have been a tackling and cuffing had they had the rights to take it.


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Jun 27, 2014 19:22 |  #6

battletone wrote in post #16998504 (external link)
Awesome video. Rule number 1, if the cops ASK your permission, they generally need it legally.
After the second refusal to hand over the camera it would have been a tackling and cuffing had they had the rights to take it.

I heard you but the situation was kind of hairy though. I wouldn't like to put myself in that situation. What if one meet a crazy cop and he start to twisting arm, tackling and cuffing then put his knee on the back of the neck. Call me chicken, I am afraid of crazy individual/cop. :o


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Jun 27, 2014 19:54 |  #7

Cops make me just sit back and laugh,,,,then of course get mad. We have a couple in the family so I know a lot of what they do. Ever since 911 (referenced in the video) they think they have the power to do just whatever they want to do. And most of the time, the courts even back them up. But there has been so many lawsuits and memos to the law enforcement agencies, you think they would get it. I mean , just like this one
http://www.photography​bay.com …rs-and-federal-buildings/ (external link)

My goodness, you can't even photo a train or a bridge in the country without getting pulled over.

A lot of what they uncover are from random stop and questions (no, I do not approve of) , this is one of their main tools. There was an instance here in Charlotte, NC where there was a guy taking a bunch of videos of the buildings and skyline. Someone reported him as suspicous and they stopped and questioned him. Wouldn't you know it. He was on a terrorist watch list


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Jun 27, 2014 20:46 |  #8

I'm expecting one of these confrontations to tufn really bad for the photogrspher. I go to great lengths to avoid stupid people with guns and a sense of power, whether real or imagined. I think there was a lack of common sense on one side, and a misunderstanding of the law on the other.




  
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Jun 27, 2014 21:15 |  #9

rick_reno wrote in post #16998663 (external link)
I'm expecting one of these confrontations to tufn really bad for the photogrspher. I go to great lengths to avoid stupid people with guns and a sense of power, whether real or imagined. I think there was a lack of common sense on one side, and a misunderstanding of the law on the other.

Yeah, next thing you know.. you're being Tasered, and end up dieing from arrest..coronary arrest that is.


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Jun 28, 2014 00:06 |  #10

Ok... cop is a little full of himself. BUT am I the only one who thinks the videographer goes out of his way to put himself in bad situations?


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Jun 28, 2014 00:12 |  #11

tstowe wrote in post #16998849 (external link)
Ok... cop is a little full of himself. BUT am I the only one who thinks the videographer goes out of his way to put himself in bad situations?

You are definitely NOT alone. I am licensed to carry a concealed weapon and check into a few forums on that subject as well. There are lots of goofballs who taunt the police regarding firearms laws. Their actions are almost identical to the "photographer" in the video and equally stupid in all respects.


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Jun 28, 2014 00:35 |  #12

SkipD wrote in post #16998852 (external link)
You are definitely NOT alone. I am licensed to carry a concealed weapon and check into a few forums on that subject as well. There are lots of goofballs who taunt the police regarding firearms laws. Their actions are almost identical to the "photographer" in the video and equally stupid in all respects.

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One thing I tell people I know who do the FTP thing, is "Who you going to call if someone steals your car, kicks your ass, etc...?". Ironically they say they'll call the cops.


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Jun 28, 2014 01:02 |  #13

tstowe wrote in post #16998849 (external link)
Ok... cop is a little full of himself. BUT am I the only one who thinks the videographer goes out of his way to put himself in bad situations?

There are two kinds of these people. There are the ones that go out of their way and are disrespectful and antagonize the police in these situations and there are those that are respectful and are trying to educate the police. The problem these days is that too many police officers are not aware on the laws regarding photography and actually do believe that it is illegal. I don't understand why so many people think the photographer is in the wrong here. He is sticking up for his rights as an american citizen.

How many police were there for one photographer in this video? 7? Does that seem like a good use of resources?


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Jun 28, 2014 01:09 |  #14

The problem is the Militaraztion of our local Police Forces. The ACLU is taking a Massachusetts LE group to court asking for records and they are fighting it stating they are not a govt agency. The ACLU is then courtering that claim if they are not a govt agency then what they are doing is completely illegal. The people are blindly letting this happen.


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Jun 28, 2014 02:00 |  #15

NYRGTO wrote in post #16998883 (external link)
...those that are respectful and are trying to educate the police. The problem these days is that too many police officers are not aware on the laws regarding photography...

Would you like someone to come along and bother you at YOUR job, possibly while you are having a really bad day, and tell YOU that you are wrong?

Many people have the view that the arguing on the sidewalk while going out of your way to be a prick is not a productive way to encourage change. Just because you HAVE a right, doesn't mean that you MUST express it in the most pigheaded way you possibly can.


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