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Jun 28, 2014 09:29 as a reply to  @ post 16999282 |  #16

I have both the 24-105 and 17-40, and find that I use the 24-105 more often given the extra focal length if I want to "zoom" something out.


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Jun 29, 2014 09:22 |  #17

3 lenses I'll rent and pack for any outdoor photography trip

24mm TS-E II. Used to own it but I'm only doing 1-2 landscape trips a year so I sold it to focus on my people photography. I will still rent it for any future landscape trip

Zeiss 50 Makro Planar. The macro feature is perfect for anything except "bug" shots. It's razor sharp, ultra low distortion. The new Sigma art is sharper but you will need a separate macro lens, weight is important for outdoor shooting so I would prefer the 1-lens solution of the zeiss.

200-400 f4L IS with 1.4x. This is a rent only lens for me based on the cost. However it is the best lens made right now for a general purpose outdoor tele zoom. You basically get a 200 for general landscape telephoto, 300/400 for wildlife, and 560 for birds.... All in one lens that is razor sharp with superb IS and pretty lightweight.

That's been my perfect trio of lenses for outdoor/nature/landsca​pe photography.


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Jun 29, 2014 10:57 |  #18

I'm torn right now about how to wisely upgrade my equipment. I'm using the 50D with the 17-55 USM IS 2.8 with excellent results.

If I went to the 6D for the advantage of a full-frame sensor with a 24-105 or 24-70, am I going to see an appreciable improvement in IQ?


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Jun 29, 2014 14:37 |  #19

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I'm torn right now about how to wisely upgrade my equipment. I'm using the 50D with the 17-55 USM IS 2.8 with excellent results.

If I went to the 6D for the advantage of a full-frame sensor with a 24-105 or 24-70, am I going to see an appreciable improvement in IQ?

Yes, especially for landscapes. You'll have a greater dynamic range to work with, which will let you pull more shadow details and recover more blown highlights. And you'll be able to do it with less noise. Your work with the 50D is very nice, and I think you will definitely appreciate moving to a full-frame sensor for landscapes. :)


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Jun 29, 2014 14:42 |  #20

nicshow wrote in post #17001207 (external link)
I'm torn right now about how to wisely upgrade my equipment. I'm using the 50D with the 17-55 USM IS 2.8 with excellent results.

If I went to the 6D for the advantage of a full-frame sensor with a 24-105 or 24-70, am I going to see an appreciable improvement in IQ?

My estimate is that you're not going to see all that much difference in good light. The 24-105 is a fine lens, but so is the 17-55. The 17-55 might even have the edge in sharpness.

When I moved to full frame, the major advantage was in portraiture. Landscape shots weren't all that much better quality wise, but there's definitely an improvement in how far you can push things in post processing.


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Jun 29, 2014 15:31 as a reply to  @ TweakMDS's post |  #21

Thanks for your perspectives - very helpful!

I know the merits of the 17-55 and that is primarily what gives me great pause about moving to full frame.

If I were to choose between the 24-105 and 24-70, is there a huge difference there in terms of IQ? In other words, could I recoup my loss of the 17-55 by acquiring the 24-70 rather than the 24-105?


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Jun 29, 2014 15:45 |  #22

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Thanks for your perspectives - very helpful!

I know the merits of the 17-55 and that is primarily what gives me great pause about moving to full frame.

If I were to choose between the 24-105 and 24-70, is there a huge difference there in terms of IQ? In other words, could I recoup my loss of the 17-55 by acquiring the 24-70 rather than the 24-105?

I really like my 24-105, it's wider and longer than the 17-55. Sharpness never bothered me, but then again I rarely pixelpeep the corners of my frame. With 105mm @f/4 on full frame it also gives you a much nicer portrait option than 55mm @f/2.8. It shoots close for nice details and it's quite resistant to flare.


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Jun 30, 2014 02:08 |  #23

Speaking of tilt-shifts I just bought a used c TS-e 24mm first (Mk I) as my intro to shifting landscapes. What can I expect? I never could find a resounding review comparing it with the Mk II.


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Jun 30, 2014 02:23 |  #24

I've borrowed one extensively, so no long term comments, but expect to spend at least 3 minutes per photo fiddling and fine tuning when you start out.

I used it on my 5Dc and it was quite frustrating to not have live view...


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Jun 30, 2014 05:16 |  #25

TweakMDS wrote in post #17002537 (external link)
I've borrowed one extensively, so no long term comments, but expect to spend at least 3 minutes per photo fiddling and fine tuning when you start out.

I used it on my 5Dc and it was quite frustrating to not have live view...

Yes live-view helps a lot for accurate manual focus and particulary for tilt-shift lenses! I've "upgraded" my Canon 5D "classic" to MarkII mainly for that reason. A tripod is a good idea, too! As "Magic lantern" ...


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Jun 30, 2014 13:33 |  #26

David Arbogast wrote in post #16998097 (external link)
17 x 1.6 = 27.2 Where does 38 come from?

Well, he originally said:

"A 24-70 on my crop body would be equivalent to what I now know as 17-64?"

24 x 1.6 = 38.4

But he has since re-framed his question. So whatever.




  
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