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Shot an Airshow, one of the pilots wants pics

 
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Jul 02, 2014 10:14 |  #1

I've been shooting for awhile now, but as an amateur. A few weekends ago I show an airshow for fun with my newly purchased canon 400mm 5.6 L and posted a link to the pics on the airshow's facebook page. One of the pilots is asking if he can use them on his facebook page and website for promotional purposes.

Any ideas on how to approach this? I would like to sell/license the pictures, but having never done this before I don't know where to start or what a fair price would be. I was thinking of asking for $20 a picture for unlimited usage rights on facebook and his website. Would that be fair?

oh, and if you want to see the pictures - they're here: https://www.gregd.org …/2014/Menomonie​AirShow/#3 (external link)

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Jul 02, 2014 12:14 |  #2

I know a few of the airshows I have shot at for my own use have rules about commercial use (which to my understanding if you sell the image thats commercial use). Might be worth reading the fine print. If thats the case giving some photos with your logo might be best.




  
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Jul 02, 2014 12:25 |  #3

Littlejon Dsgn wrote in post #17007414 (external link)
I know a few of the airshows I have shot at for my own use have rules about commercial use (which to my understanding if you sell the image thats commercial use). Might be worth reading the fine print. If thats the case giving some photos with your logo might be best.

^^^ That, plus to be honest your images are good but you should have shot them at a lower shutter speed to show prop movement (blur). Also, most airshow acts don't really have a ton of web-site traffic and it's not like a few photos are gonna' generate any income for them. IMO let them use a few images and be happy with a bit of recognition for your effort.




  
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Jul 02, 2014 12:28 |  #4

Thanks littlejon - this particular airshow was at a small region airport and was free admission. I'm not able to find anything on their website about any rules they may have about photography.




  
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Jul 02, 2014 12:28 |  #5

Yup looking at your pics, you need to shoot with a lower shutter speed to show more prop motion. Right now everything looks like its about to fall out of the sky.




  
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Jul 02, 2014 12:30 |  #6

farmerd wrote in post #17007448 (external link)
Thanks littlejon - this particular airshow was at a small region airport and was free admission. I'm not able to find anything on their website about any rules they may have about photography.

A quick email or phone call to the organizer will clear everything up with what you can and can not do with the pictures. The last show I went to was at a small regional airport, but they had the most rules out of any of them.




  
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Jul 02, 2014 12:52 |  #7

thanks again - assuming we get that part cleared up, i'm very interested in how to price the pictures / strategies to use and what would be considered fair.




  
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Jul 02, 2014 13:29 |  #8

groundloop wrote in post #17007442 (external link)
^^^ That, plus to be honest your images are good but you should have shot them at a lower shutter speed to show prop movement (blur). Also, most airshow acts don't really have a ton of web-site traffic and it's not like a few photos are gonna' generate any income for them. IMO let them use a few images and be happy with a bit of recognition for your effort.

Yeah, totally agree about the shutter, thanks for the critique! But not bad for the first time shooting an air show I think :) I learned a lot for sure.




  
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Jul 02, 2014 13:41 |  #9

I charge $40 per image/per year for social media use(local companies mainly). No one has complained so far. If it was a big company I would be charging more though, for personal I would probably charge just $20.


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Jul 02, 2014 13:58 |  #10

farmerd wrote in post #17007448 (external link)
... this particular airshow was at a small region airport and was free admission......

If that's the case then I'll guarantee that the pilots you saw are getting by on a shoestring budget and were paid little or nothing to perform there. If it were me I'd just let them have the images with a watermark or logo and maybe start building a relationship for possible future business.




  
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Jul 02, 2014 14:02 |  #11

Littlejon Dsgn wrote in post #17007452 (external link)
A quick email or phone call to the organizer will clear everything up with what you can and can not do with the pictures. The last show I went to was at a small regional airport, but they had the most rules out of any of them.

I would understand that if it was a free show then you didn't really agree to any rules (as you would by purchasing a ticket). They might be able to restrict your actions while you are there but I am not sure any "rules" they had could be binding on what you could do with your photos after the fact. At least, my assumption has always been that buying and using a ticket was the act where you agreed to the rules regarding commercial use photography (and other rules).


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Jul 02, 2014 14:51 as a reply to  @ MattPharmD's post |  #12

I try real hard not to assume anything anymore. I have been to events that had a few signs posted with the photography "rules" on them as you passed into the events.

to the OP I would probably let the pilot use the photos at no charge. My guess is he will move onto the next guy with pictures as soon as you toss any charges his way.




  
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Jul 03, 2014 04:17 |  #13

groundloop wrote in post #17007611 (external link)
If it were me I'd just let them have the images with a watermark or logo and maybe start building a relationship for possible future business.

now you're talking - if it were me I'd be sending the pilot some unwatermarked shots gratis & see how things go with a view to getting future access. There's more than one way to be rewarded for your work and getting some sort of ability to shoot is certainly a way to be compensated.


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Jul 03, 2014 06:51 |  #14

How about a trade out. Your photos for a little flying time. Get some aerials in


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Jul 03, 2014 07:14 |  #15

Trade your pics for air time and shoot even better pics. Fly with him during the next show and see what you can get.


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