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Jul 03, 2014 08:29 |  #16

The trade sounds like the best idea, and its probably worth more than $20.


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Jul 03, 2014 08:59 |  #17

I have done trades for things like this before. Well worth it.


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Jul 03, 2014 10:30 |  #18

joeseph wrote in post #17008864 (external link)
.....I'd be sending the pilot some unwatermarked shots gratis & see how things go with a view to getting future access.....

Airshow pilots at a small airport, with no admission charges, are probably donating their time, too.


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Jul 03, 2014 11:17 |  #19

thats a very good point.

I ditto the trade idea! May be you can get up close and personal at the next airshow for even better pictures!!!!

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Airshow pilots at a small airport, with no admission charges, are probably donating their time, too.




  
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Jul 03, 2014 21:31 |  #20

Generally, when I shoot performers and performances, I give the performers a free license to use the images for self-promotion only. This includes things like flyers for future shows, etc. While they ARE making a little money off those performances, they're not exactly rolling in the dough - they're certainly not big businesses using them for national advertising. As my skills and reputation continue to improve, I may change my model.

Trading for airtime and/or better access, now that sounds like a great idea.

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I would understand that if it was a free show then you didn't really agree to any rules (as you would by purchasing a ticket). They might be able to restrict your actions while you are there but I am not sure any "rules" they had could be binding on what you could do with your photos after the fact. At least, my assumption has always been that buying and using a ticket was the act where you agreed to the rules regarding commercial use photography (and other rules).

You're right, now that the photos are taken, they probably can't enforce too much after-the-fact. But, if he makes the relationship turn sour now, they can certainly un-invite him from any future shows of this nature.


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Jul 06, 2014 18:23 |  #21

Prop blur or not, I guess they're good enough if someone wants to use them! :D


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Aug 25, 2014 14:34 |  #22

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Trade your pics for air time and shoot even better pics. Fly with him during the next show and see what you can get.

I'd do this too. You're bound to meet interesting people (other pilots!), get behind the scenes shots, maybe get aerial shots and if you play your cards right, you can grow your network and visit more and bigger airshows with the pilots. I'm being optimistic, but you never know!


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Aug 25, 2014 17:21 |  #23

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One of the pilots is asking if he can use them on his facebook page and website for promotional purposes.

To me, the phrase "promotional purposes" is synonymous with "commercial endeavors". He wants to use them to get paying gigs, so why shouldn't you get paid for them?

The trade aspect is an interesting one, but it could be an insurance fiasco, too. It would probably be worth investigating...


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Aug 26, 2014 14:50 |  #24

farmerd wrote in post #17007190 (external link)
I've been shooting for awhile now, but as an amateur. A few weekends ago I show an airshow for fun with my newly purchased canon 400mm 5.6 L and posted a link to the pics on the airshow's facebook page. One of the pilots is asking if he can use them on his facebook page and website for promotional purposes.

Any ideas on how to approach this? I would like to sell/license the pictures, but having never done this before I don't know where to start or what a fair price would be. I was thinking of asking for $20 a picture for unlimited usage rights on facebook and his website. Would that be fair?

oh, and if you want to see the pictures - they're here: https://www.gregd.org …/2014/Menomonie​AirShow/#3 (external link)

Thanks for your input!

I like the idea of trading pics for air time. That's a unique situation that would appeal to me.

In general, though, I would be reluctant to provide the photos. If he just had a hobbyist site and wanted to show off, that'd probably be fine. But, if he's using it to get paying jobs, then no, he has to pay.


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Aug 27, 2014 10:32 |  #25

A little Photoshop can fix the wing deal... I would just let them have the image to be honest. May lead to something may not.


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