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Jul 03, 2014 00:18 |  #1

Hi guys! Whats a nice third party flash that has ettl? It should be able to function as a master and a slave. Something in the vicinity of $300 would be great but id be willing to spend a bit more if needed. I was looking at the phottix mitros+ but thought id get some opinions also. Thanks!


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Jul 03, 2014 00:38 |  #2

The new Godox v860c Ving ETTL is getting great reviews - http://flashhavoc.com …c-ving-ettl-flash-review/ (external link)




  
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Jul 03, 2014 00:50 |  #3

$300 can get you a 580ex2 used. But if you're not set on canon there are a few with ettl from yongnuo that might do what you want.



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Jul 03, 2014 01:02 |  #4

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Jul 03, 2014 07:15 |  #5

" .. I was looking at the phottix mitros+ but thought id get some opinions also .. "

The Mitros (Without the +) offers Master & Slave tech etc but using Light/IR communications - like the Canon 580Ex II does.

The Mitros + (With the +) adds Radio Odin & Strato II tech, built-in - as well. Hence the price difference. (I use these in an Odin based setup.)

You need to be clear about exactly what you require. Cheers




  
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Jul 03, 2014 08:57 |  #6

Love my Odins, control all the flash head functions from the back of the TCU.


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Jul 03, 2014 09:55 |  #7

The Godox Ving v860C [LInk] (external link) is still quite newly arrived so no-one has really had the chance to thrash the living daylights out of it yet on a long-term basis. Certainly seems extremely promising though, I definitely like mine a lot. The battery capacity is just brilliant, saves carrying an accessory battery pack and spare batteries to feed it. Works perfectly with either Godox's own radio triggers (FT-16S plus FT-16 or Cells II-C if you need HSS) or the YN-622C, either as stand-alone pair or in conjunction with the new Yn-622C-TX, which I've been testing for a while now (courtesy of Cliveyboy & Yongnuo).


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Jul 03, 2014 12:08 |  #8

i love the phottix mitros+. it has every feature of a modern flash, but it comes at premium. i love the fact that it can be updated via usb, supports external power and can control groups from the flash. its the best of both worlds because you can use a flash on camera when you need to. you can control/trigger other flashes if you need to and if you have the odin you can control/trigger your mitros+ and other flashes if you need to.

if you want a flash with that is much cheaper with similar capabilities i would look at the Yongnuo YN568-EX II. It does everything the mitros+ can but it has less power, no usb, no external power and it can't control/trigger other flashes via radio. it can trigger via optic, but no remote control though. that is why i went with the mitros+.

when the Yongnuo YN-600EX-RT is released it should be on par with the mitros+ if not exceeding it. the problem is that is has been delayed (currently 7 months or so).

so if you only need to trigger other flashes via optic and you don't want to go over $300, go with the Yongnuo. You'll be able to get 2 for the same price as 1 mitros+. but if ever want to be able to trigger and control multiple flashes via radio you may want to spend a little extra and go with the mitros+ or the YN-600EX-RT when it is released.


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Jul 05, 2014 02:20 |  #9

Hey guys thank you for the replies.mthe reason why i was looking at the mitros+ is because i was thinking of eventually getting triggers (although not anytime soon). Right now i am using only either a70d and a 7d to trigger my 580exII.

One more thing, will i be able to trigger both flashes optically? Thanks!


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Jul 05, 2014 03:38 as a reply to  @ treck_dialect's post |  #10

Hi,

I still love my Yongnuo 568EXII. (external link) It has the same options as Phottix Mitros but is much cheaper. All 3 flashes you can trigger by 7d or 70d. Nevertheless a radio trigger like YN-622C-TX w (external link)ill give you much more options.




  
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Jul 05, 2014 04:15 |  #11

thanks. i meant can i trigger two flashes at the same time without a trigger?


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Jul 05, 2014 04:40 as a reply to  @ treck_dialect's post |  #12

Yes, with the camera built-in flash one can trigger 2 or many e-TTL slave flashes. As said before a radio trigger like 622 TX has many advantages. It supports HSS, does not flash itself, is more convenient to use.




  
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Jul 05, 2014 09:05 |  #13

heinimi wrote in post #17012467 (external link)
Yes, with the camera built-in flash one can trigger 2 or many e-TTL slave flashes. As said before a radio trigger like 622 TX has many advantages. It supports HSS, does not flash itself, is more convenient to use.

+1 Especially if you place your flashes inside modifiers where you might loose line of sight, where a 622C's radio transmitter eliminates that problem. If you go with 622Cs, you'll need one on the camera and one on each flash.


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Jul 05, 2014 09:44 |  #14

ok guys thanks so much. so knowing that i'll eventually get transmitters (which will probably odins since theyre inexpensive) should i just get a mitros+?


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Jul 06, 2014 11:15 |  #15

Depends really, do you intend to use the on camera flash head as fill along with the others or are you just looking to trigger the others?

I've known folks that hate using flash heads on cameras as a single light source and I've known many that enjoy it. If I were you I'd go for the best of both worlds for an extra $100 over just the flash head, had the Phottix heads been out when I got my Odins this is the way I'd have gone. Add a few more receivers and a few used 550EX heads(seen pop up for $75 occasionally) along with some stands and modifiers/umbrellas and your good to go.

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Of course once you get into spending to get to that level the Cheetah Stand offerings start looking pretty good too.


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