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New lens needed, can't decide.

 
graffiticat
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Jul 06, 2014 12:44 |  #1

I have a Canon 60D, with lenses
Sigma 70-200
Canon 70-300
Canon 10-20
Tamron macro lens
and
Tamron 17-85
(sorry no further info, can't remember all those specifications)

The Tamron 17-85 is just 10 months old and it's stuck. I cannot zoom, nothing, so it goes to the store this week.

Now I'm looking for a more allround lens.
But, I find it difficult to decide.

The Canon EF-S 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 IS STM that I would like is not available in that store for the moment.
Then again, I might regret not being able to shoot objects that are at a greater distance.
So, I could get

Sigma 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS HSM Canon

or

Tamron 18-270mm F3.5-6.3 Di II VC PZD Canon


Money is tight so I cannot spend more. I'm going on a holiday late September so I might prefer a greater range.

But the Canon is better, or not??

I will order online, so no sales advice. Please help me make up my mind.
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Jul 06, 2014 14:34 |  #2

You already have lenses with those focal lengths? Why do you want something similar or the same?




  
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Jul 06, 2014 15:22 |  #3

So, you are looking for a one-lens solution that will cover a wide range of focal lengths. If money is tight, why not sell the 70-300? If you're looking for something from wide to tele, a 250/270 length will not be much different than the long end of the 70-300.


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Jul 06, 2014 15:22 |  #4

itsray wrote in post #17014868 (external link)
You already have lenses with those focal lengths? Why do you want something similar or the same?

OP prefers "a greater range."


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Jul 06, 2014 16:45 |  #5

I have the Sigma lens and I have found it good while I was leaning to use my camera. It is a nice small size at 18mm and isn't too long or front heavy when at 250mm, I was comfortable carrying it around Disney all day long. I found the hsm motor quick and quiet and generally used it a all the time for the first couple of years of my photography hobby. I'm not saying that it is right for everybody but for a beginner it is a very useful lens.




  
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Jul 06, 2014 17:19 |  #6

I guess the 18-135mm STM has better quality than any 18-2xxmm out there, I'd go for the 18-135mm.


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Jul 07, 2014 05:11 |  #7

Drum wrote in post #17015150 (external link)
I have the Sigma lens and I have found it good while I was leaning to use my camera. It is a nice small size at 18mm and isn't too long or front heavy when at 250mm, I was comfortable carrying it around Disney all day long. I found the hsm motor quick and quiet and generally used it a all the time for the first couple of years of my photography hobby. I'm not saying that it is right for everybody but for a beginner it is a very useful lens.


so, not for me then.
As for selling any of my gear, I don't think so, I'm quite addicted to every single item, I use it too often too.

I think I will stick to my initial preference and go for the Canon.




  
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Jul 07, 2014 08:29 |  #8

As you said yourself the sigma and Tamron both have more than 100mm more range on them for not that much less image quality than the canon 18-135, all the lenses you mentioned are beginner level of quality - if you are above this level don't buy any of them you will only be disappointed. If you are above the beginner level why did you ask the question?




  
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Jul 07, 2014 18:38 as a reply to  @ Drum's post |  #9

I've owned and compared several of these lenses and here's my take...

I briefly owned the Sigma 18-250mm HSM, which by many/most reviews is superior to the Tamron 18-270mm in IQ.

I've also owned both versions of the Canon 18-135mm as well. The Canon 18-135mm STM is quite a bit superior to the Sigma 18-250mm HSM in IQ. It is a very sharp lens and equal to my Canon 15-85mm which is tact sharp. You can crop images from either of those lenses and the quality is still equal or near equal to the Sigma at an equivalent 250mm.

I made a direct comparison of the Sigma 18-250mm (brand new) to both my Canon 15-85mm and Canon 18-135mm HSM a few months ago. The Sigma was very appealing but the IQ just wasn't quite there for me.

I can't agree with Drum's assessment that these are "beginner level" lenses. You can get great images from any of those lenses but again I found the Canon superior to the Sigma. BTW, the Canon 18-135mm HSM offers equal to better IQ than my Canon 24-105mm "L". I wouldn't hesitate to say it is also equal in IQ to a Canon 70-200mm f4 L (non IS) lens that I rented several years ago. The Canon 18-135mm HSM has excellent IQ and makes a great walk around lens...

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Jul 07, 2014 21:07 |  #10

Why not just get one of those mirror less super zoom cameras?


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Jul 08, 2014 11:52 |  #11

vertigo235 wrote in post #17017726 (external link)
Why not just get one of those mirror less super zoom cameras?


do you buy a new car when you need new tyres??




  
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Jul 08, 2014 11:57 |  #12

No but I also wouldn't buy a one size fits all cover for my car either. ;)

Sorry, I'm just not a fan of the superzooms, to each their own :D


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Jul 08, 2014 12:15 |  #13

graffiticat wrote in post #17018904 (external link)
do you buy a new car when you need new tyres??

I get what you're after.

But the point of the system you have is to have the ability to use interchangeable lenses. If you're just wanting a super zoom focal length, it really defeats the point of having a big clunky SLR with a big lens, when there are cams with super zooms built for these field of views that are compact and will give you probably about the same image quality, minus the massive bulk and length. It's worth considering if you're going this direction with your photography. Luckily the 60D still has good resale value.

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Jul 08, 2014 15:30 |  #14

^ This may be your best option and that point is very valid.
Something like the new G16 by Canon may give you a larger, grippable build than the Eos-M line.

OP:
While you seek advice on lenses based on your own preference to a 'do it all zoom'
a good quality camera with a fix lens may be what suits you best.
I agree with MalVeauX's post. Personally I would choose the G16 over the Eos-M if if sold my 6D

Each one of my primes excels in an area of photography and is therefore very limited in others.
My gear is to opposite of a 'do it all' camera. It is very specialized to what I enjoy shooting.

I wish you luck in finding photography gear that is the best fit for you.


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Jul 08, 2014 15:36 |  #15

Personally I would actually recommend the Canon 15-85 IS USM lens as an "all around lens", you already have two options for 70+ range, and I loved the 15-85 lens. The extra 2-3mm is quite significant on the wide end. It's a very sharp and capable lens, and the IS is fantastic.


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