Do what you like. You can always fail doing something you hate. But why? I shoot what I like. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not so good. That's all part of the game.
Jun 30, 2014 02:05 | #3421 Do what you like. You can always fail doing something you hate. But why? I shoot what I like. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not so good. That's all part of the game. http://emjfotografi.com/
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Clean Gene Goldmember 1,014 posts Joined Nov 2010 More info | Jun 30, 2014 21:56 | #3422 airfrogusmc wrote in post #17000932 ![]() It's about our own life experiences. We know that direct sun is warm. The fur of cats is usually very soft and concrete is rough. And it's not a photograph about a cat but those experienced relationships and the contrasts. If it were a cat portrait, which the world wide web is full of, then it's not a good cat portrait. It is an interesting image about subtle color, opposing textures and shape. The obvious cat is only relevant in the fact it is soft and being petted. What it actually looks like is only relevant in its monochromatic color. The person is only relevant to show the act of touching the soft, warmed by the sun fur, which most know what that feels like. The person is also relevant because the cool blue on the jacket also bringing contrast to the warm skin tone. So rough/smooth. Cool/warm color. Wonderful movement from upper left into the image. A simple life moment that we have all experienced and most important through all of this is it looks like one of Oh Looks photographs. And with this she is exploring some similar ground as Gibson only she is using color Heres something because Oh Looks image did remind me a bit of this by Gibson http://pleasurephotoroom.files.wordpress.com …ibson-day-at-sea-1972.jpg ![]() And a few words on the snapshot aesthetic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapshot_aesthetic ![]() I guess I see the similarities, though I think that one of the things that works with the Gibson is that the b&w treatment sort of unifies the whole image. I'd be interested in seeing OhLook's image in black and white. I previously said that I thought it was a little too "busy", that there's just too much stuff going on in the image, and I wonder if I'd feel differently about it if the color were removed.
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Clean Gene Goldmember 1,014 posts Joined Nov 2010 More info | Jun 30, 2014 22:23 | #3423 OhLook wrote in post #17001289 ![]() "Employed"? I didn't have that much control. The lighting was available. Midday is the most practical time for me to go out, and it was a bright day. Could it be that when you see a cat, you think "There's a cat" and you stop looking? 1) Don't sell yourself short like that. Either you think the lighting works, or you don't. If you think it works, then it was the right light to use because it works, not because "it is what was available." Alternatively, if it doesn't work, then "it's what was available" isn't an excuse. Regardless of what I may feel about any of your individual images, you know what you're doing and you're thinking about what you're doing, which means that you DO have that much control. If you can't control the light, then you certainly can have enough control to shoot things that work in that light.
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OhLook insufferably pedantic. I can live with that. ![]() 20,680 posts Gallery: 77 photos Best ofs: 2 Likes: 8752 Joined Dec 2012 Location: California: SF Bay Area More info Post edited over 3 years ago by OhLook. | Jun 30, 2014 22:51 | #3424 Clean Gene wrote in post #17004276 ![]() I'd be interested in seeing OhLook's image in black and white. Here you go. First I removed the saturation. The result was too contrasty, so I fiddled with the tones. Then I added a little sepia because it looked better. If you want to see a pure B&W version, you can download the color image and DIY. I have Editing OK turned on. Clean Gene wrote in post #17004330 ![]() 1) Don't sell yourself short like that. Either you think the lighting works, or you don't. If you think it works, then it was the right light to use because it works, not because "it is what was available." . . . If you can't control the light, then you certainly can have enough control to shoot things that work in that light. No, really. When there are moving subjects and they're not going to pose, my choices are (1) use the light that's there, (2) skip the opportunity entirely. I wasn't about to ask the woman and the cat whether they'd mind coming back just before sunset. You know how cats are. (Yes, we can all think of the next line.) PRONOUN ADVISORY: OhLook is a she. | A FEW CORRECT SPELLINGS: lens, aperture, amateur, hobbyist, per se, raccoon, whoa, more so (2 wds.), shoo-in | Comments welcome
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Clean Gene Goldmember 1,014 posts Joined Nov 2010 More info | Jul 02, 2014 00:26 | #3425 OhLook wrote in post #17004390 ![]() Here you go. ![]() ![]() First I removed the saturation. The result was too contrasty, so I fiddled with the tones. Then I added a little sepia because it looked better. If you want to see a pure B&W version, you can download the color image and DIY. I have Editing OK turned on. No, really. When there are moving subjects and they're not going to pose, my choices are (1) use the light that's there, (2) skip the opportunity entirely. I wasn't about to ask the woman and the cat whether they'd mind coming back just before sunset. You know how cats are. (Yes, we can all think of the next line.)
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OhLook insufferably pedantic. I can live with that. ![]() 20,680 posts Gallery: 77 photos Best ofs: 2 Likes: 8752 Joined Dec 2012 Location: California: SF Bay Area More info | Jul 02, 2014 01:56 | #3426 Clean Gene wrote in post #17006549 ![]() 1) I may be in the minority here, but I like that a LOT more. I personally didn't think the color was doing much, and was distracting from the cohesiveness of the image. Now with the color gone, I feel like I'm paying a lot more attention to form, light, and shadow. Okay. airfrog likes the color, you don't, the next person might or might not--no problem. 2) My point is, saying "I did it because it was available" is sort of a non-answer. Of course EVERYONE utilizes or uses things because they are available, simply because if they were not available then that person wouldn't be able to use it. But recall that this part of the dialogue began when you talked about "the lighting which was employed." I didn't employ the lighting. In a studio, one employs lighting. I chose the subject, but the sunshine was just there, take it or leave it. PRONOUN ADVISORY: OhLook is a she. | A FEW CORRECT SPELLINGS: lens, aperture, amateur, hobbyist, per se, raccoon, whoa, more so (2 wds.), shoo-in | Comments welcome
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airfrogusmc I'm a chimper. There I said it... More info | Jul 02, 2014 16:09 | #3427 I like the subtle color.
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Tom Reichner Cream of the Crop ![]() 15,645 posts Gallery: 170 photos Best ofs: 1 Likes: 5647 Joined Dec 2008 Location: from Pennsylvania, now in Washington state, road trip back and forth a lot, with extensive detouring More info | Jul 12, 2014 04:40 | #3428 mtimber wrote in post #14207751 ![]() Post your thoughts, questions and observations and pictures here. When you post a picture, please explain your compositional thoughts so others understand your image better. It's been so long since I've read the original post, that I had forgotten that we were asked to share our thoughts at the same time we post an image. "Your" and "you're" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
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airfrogusmc I'm a chimper. There I said it... More info | Jul 12, 2014 20:43 | #3429 Tom I like the second better because of subject separation and you still get a feel for the vegetation. Like'm both....
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OhLook insufferably pedantic. I can live with that. ![]() 20,680 posts Gallery: 77 photos Best ofs: 2 Likes: 8752 Joined Dec 2012 Location: California: SF Bay Area More info | Jul 12, 2014 22:56 | #3430 Tom Reichner wrote in post #17026481 ![]() It's been so long since I've read the original post, that I had forgotten that we were asked to share our thoughts at the same time we post an image. We were? I'd rather post an image without commenting, to avoid giving viewers any preconceptions. Below are two images. Both feature a whitetail buck standing in a teasel patch. I can't decide which I prefer, not that you asked for a choice. Both are dramatic. Both would benefit from sharper focus. I think you once posted about lacking lenses for optimal focus on distant animals. PRONOUN ADVISORY: OhLook is a she. | A FEW CORRECT SPELLINGS: lens, aperture, amateur, hobbyist, per se, raccoon, whoa, more so (2 wds.), shoo-in | Comments welcome
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Clean Gene Goldmember 1,014 posts Joined Nov 2010 More info | Jul 13, 2014 01:42 | #3431 I much prefer the second. In addition to the things already mentioned, the deer in the second image is looking dead straight right at me. That gives the image a lot of added impact, since that direct engagement with me really gets my attention.
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Clean Gene Goldmember 1,014 posts Joined Nov 2010 More info | Jul 13, 2014 03:08 | #3432 Eh, what the hell. I normally post in Critique Corner, but I'll try out this thread.
So, like...are we supposed to comment about the image, or aren't we? I'm not quite sure how much I want to (or can) say about this. It's another of my dead animal dioramas. For this one I wanted to express a sense of vulnerability, but I'm not entirely sure how well that comes off seeing as how the final image is significantly different than my original plan.
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airfrogusmc I'm a chimper. There I said it... More info | Jul 13, 2014 07:47 | #3433 I think in the context of other work in a series it can work. As far as not turning out likes planned thats one thing I love about my personal work. It is never planned. I Make a left turn on a street there is a ton of visual possibilities. If I would have turned right, not a thing.....
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navydoc Cream of the Crop ![]() More info | What about this? For me this is about the hands. I love how your art shows life imitating art...and repeating patterns too. Gene - My Photo Gallery ||
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Tom Reichner Cream of the Crop ![]() 15,645 posts Gallery: 170 photos Best ofs: 1 Likes: 5647 Joined Dec 2008 Location: from Pennsylvania, now in Washington state, road trip back and forth a lot, with extensive detouring More info | Jul 13, 2014 11:01 | #3435 Oh Look and Allen, thanks for your comments & insights, they are appreciated. Clean Gene wrote in post #17028178 ![]() I much prefer the second. In addition to the things already mentioned, the deer in the second image is looking dead straight right at me. That gives the image a lot of added impact, since that direct engagement with me really gets my attention. Anyway, I don't think that the deer or the teasel (I'm assuming that's the plant) is the subject of the photo. I think the subject is more along the lines of the deer's relationship to its environment. More specifically, part of the environment and an extension of its environment. I'm not getting any of that in the first image. In the first image, I'm just seeing a deer in an environment. That's gone in the second image. The deer and its environment are no longer coming off as separate elements. The deer dissolves into its surroundings at the base, while the head sticking up is similar to the seed pods (or flowers) extending from the ground. There's a really nice sense of wholeness and uniformity there, and the icing on the cake is the way that the deer is gazing directly at me. The first image? It's nice and technically good and compositionally sound, but it just plain doesn't have near the same impact as the second image. The first image is good, but I still can't help but to see it as just a deer in a field. The second image goes beyond that. Gene, "Your" and "you're" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
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