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Jun 30, 2014 20:55 |  #1

*update* from july 4th purchase.

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last monday FAA comes out with this about there views on the activity.

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Jun 30, 2014 21:12 |  #2

Here is the page where you can post your comments on this NPR http://www.regulations​.gov …25;dct=PS;D=FAA​-2014-0396 (external link)

Some the of posts there are more of the ranting variety, but if you have a good argument to make be sure to add it. One thing I notice in the comments is the reaction of the model a/c community to the restriction of FPV flying (the aircraft transmitting back a visual so it's like you're in the cockpit), which would be prohibited under the new interpretation.




  
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Jul 02, 2014 09:54 |  #3

Future of drones will be - cant use it to take pictures but can use it to deliver Amazon packages :)


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Jul 02, 2014 12:02 as a reply to  @ dkizzle's post |  #4

Actually the regulations make sense - if you want to use a drone for commercial purposes (i.e. - getting paid) it needs to be licensed and you'll have to follow certain rules. And to be honest, as a pilot the thought of sharing the sky with unmanned drones scares the hell out of me.




  
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Jul 02, 2014 15:16 |  #5

i think its more you cant get PAID, but you can still fly. I have already seen a photographer use this to "scare" off realtors using them. He doesnt, so he must being enjoying using this scare factory to crush his comp.


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Jul 02, 2014 16:13 |  #6

If the FAA implements rules that mitigate the risks to GA aircraft and those on the ground then the commercial distinction is arbitrary and detracts from their mission due to the need for them to police the commercial users. Use of Part 91 rules as an enforcement tool is sufficient in this respect. E.g. use of a drone over a crowd at a news event could result in an enforcement action under Part 91.




  
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Jul 08, 2014 10:16 as a reply to  @ J Michael's post |  #7

Why would the FAA bother to keep bullying until it actually has regulations officially in place and punishments decided. They tried to fine Trappy and failed. Just because realtors can use remote control aircraft for pictures and video does not mean they will get the best results, professionals should still be used. Did you know a telescoping mast can get many of these same shots, it just not as cool.... Once regulations are officially in place there will only be select professionals that can do this anyway. Australia has something like 30 companies that can legally fly commercially.

Media has deemed these machines as drones or UAV to strike fear into the general public. Just because they have GPS and (hobby class) intelligent controls does not put them in the same class as military drones. If you use a remote control helicopter or airplane without all these special control options, adding a camera instantly classifies it as a drone? It is still a remote control off the shelf aircraft that can be purchased anywhere. Just because they will regulate them commercially does not mean it will reduce the amount of people operating them any where they want. Fewer 'pilots' attend actually flying fields than ever before, not to mention those that are flying 'drones' most likely don't have any idea how to manually fly the same aircraft even if it were a life or death situation. I met a realtor flying a Phantom that was bragging he'd never flown any remote control before, and it only took 3 minutes to learn.... That is where the problems will originate, not the multiple year professionals that know what their doing.

I wouldn't scare anyone from flying, but recommend getting the proper training before doing so.




  
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Jul 08, 2014 10:31 |  #8

I'm waiting on the results of the FAA appeal in the case against Pirker. Eager to hear the result, eager to see what regulations will be put into place. Not holding my breath, 'cause it's going to take a few years.

I'm all for licensing, regulation, and mandatory training. Perhaps something comparable to the training and licensing required to operate a motor vehicle on public roads.


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Jul 12, 2014 10:34 |  #9

Well I celebrated my freedom on July 4th by buying a drone. Couldn't think of a better paradox to celebrate freedom than getting the drone with the pending FAA statement. Should be able to get some pics up of it today. 10 flights already, but need to tweak some mods.


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Jul 13, 2014 00:44 |  #10

MrClark7 wrote in post #17026872 (external link)
Well I celebrated my freedom on July 4th by buying a drone. Couldn't think of a better paradox to celebrate freedom than getting the drone with the pending FAA statement. Should be able to get some pics up of it today. 10 flights already, but need to tweak some mods.

Very nice Mr. Clark. What brand and model for the photo you posted?

I would be interested for personal use, and possibly future commercial use, but unsure what all the legal redtape allows at the moment. I always enjoyed flying RC planes years ago. Just wouldn't want to crash another $1000+ machine.


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Jul 13, 2014 06:26 as a reply to  @ juicedownload's post |  #11

As with other activities, the impact of liability insurance will determine the future of hobby drones. It's already happened to general aviation. (external link)




  
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Jul 13, 2014 07:11 |  #12

Who thinks this is a good idea?

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Jul 13, 2014 08:33 as a reply to  @ CameraMan's post |  #13

Firearms, anything firing from a model aircraft has always been illegal.




  
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Jul 13, 2014 09:32 |  #14

juicedownload wrote in post #17028132 (external link)
Very nice Mr. Clark. What brand and model for the photo you posted?

I would be interested for personal use, and possibly future commercial use, but unsure what all the legal redtape allows at the moment. I always enjoyed flying RC planes years ago. Just wouldn't want to crash another $1000+ machine.


look up DJI F550 but stay away from phantom if using for quality work. phantom would be considered rebel xt, as it is the bottom of their line. Still is fun and handles the same Gopro, but its stability thats the issue.


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Jul 13, 2014 09:49 |  #15

TroyRaymond wrote in post #17028527 (external link)
Firearms, anything firing from a model aircraft has always been illegal.

Red Jacket Firearms I believe is trying to market this for law enforcement and possibly military.

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