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Jul 15, 2014 10:46 |  #1

Hey guys. Having a dilemma here. I sold my 70D and 18-35ART so I can buy a 6D and finally stepping into full frame. However, Ive been waiting for canon's refurbished sale to be in stock again and its taking a while.

Ebay has been having deals with the kit lens for under $2k and I am wondering, should I get it with the kit lens? I mean... I've heard good reviews about it but its not really the best lens either. But its probably worth the extra $550 and not the $1k retail price for it.

I was going to set aside the money for the 24ART or 85ART when it does come out.

Any thoughts? Should I get the 6D with the kit lens or without the kit lens?

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Jul 15, 2014 12:30 |  #2

Assuming that you still own the lenses in your signature, you have the 35mm, 50mm, and the 70-200. Why not just save the money and get body only? If the convenience factor of a zoom is worth it to you in addition to your current lenses, then I would consider the kit. But otherwise, just get the body only.


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Jul 15, 2014 12:38 |  #3

What's the price difference? For $500-$600 more, I'd get the kit, and try out the lens. If you find you don't use it or like it, you can sell it for what you paid or a little more- I see them selling for right around $600 in the buy/sell forums pretty regularly.




  
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Jul 15, 2014 13:04 |  #4

With the lenses you have already, I doubt you will use the 24-105 much at all. With my 6D, I have a 35 Art and 85 1.8 and never, ever used the 24-105.




  
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Jul 15, 2014 13:30 |  #5

Qlayer2 wrote in post #17033680 (external link)
What's the price difference? For $500-$600 more, I'd get the kit, and try out the lens. If you find you don't use it or like it, you can sell it for what you paid or a little more- I see them selling for right around $600 in the buy/sell forums pretty regularly.

This.

I bought my 6D as a kit, used the 24-105L for about a year and decided I didn't really enjoy using it much and was able to sell it for $650 to fund my X-E1 kit, probably would've gotten more if I was patient.


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Jul 15, 2014 18:23 |  #6
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I bought my 6D as body only. I am happy with that choice.


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Jul 15, 2014 19:52 |  #7

Thanks everyone. It looks like Ill be waiting for that refurbed sale :(


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Jul 15, 2014 20:11 |  #8

pinoyplaya wrote in post #17033415 (external link)
Hey guys. Having a dilemma here. I sold my 70D and 18-35ART so I can buy a 6D and finally stepping into full frame. However, Ive been waiting for canon's refurbished sale to be in stock again and its taking a while.

Ebay has been having deals with the kit lens for under $2k and I am wondering, should I get it with the kit lens? I mean... I've heard good reviews about it but its not really the best lens either. But its probably worth the extra $550 and not the $1k retail price for it.

I was going to set aside the money for the 24ART or 85ART when it does come out.

Any thoughts? Should I get the 6D with the kit lens or without the kit lens?

Thanks for your input :)

Heya,

I look at it like this. You're either going to sell it for what you pay for it give or take a bit, which is not worth really waiting for. Or you're going to use it. Sounds to me like a f4L zoom is not really something you're excited for. I wouldn't be either. It's not a very good performing lens, considering it's an `L, especially at the wide end. At the normal to telephoto ends, it's a good enough lens. But again, doesn't seem to warrant being an `L really. That said, it does have weather resistance.

Personally I would have next to no use for that lens. I wouldn't wait around for it. And I wouldn't pay more to have it, just to end up not using it, or taking the effort to sell it for what I got it for, or maybe a bit more to someone who wanted to pay $600ish for it, as that's the common going rate for a minty white box one.

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Jul 15, 2014 23:50 |  #9

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Heya,

I look at it like this. You're either going to sell it for what you pay for it give or take a bit, which is not worth really waiting for. Or you're going to use it. Sounds to me like a f4L zoom is not really something you're excited for. I wouldn't be either. It's not a very good performing lens, considering it's an `L, especially at the wide end. At the normal to telephoto ends, it's a good enough lens. But again, doesn't seem to warrant being an `L really. That said, it does have weather resistance.

Personally I would have next to no use for that lens. I wouldn't wait around for it. And I wouldn't pay more to have it, just to end up not using it, or taking the effort to sell it for what I got it for, or maybe a bit more to someone who wanted to pay $600ish for it, as that's the common going rate for a minty white box one.

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I see a lot of members post about it being only a so-so lens... I must've had a really good copy of it, mine was super sharp at pretty much all FL's, but the vignetting and distortion at the wide end were really bad.

That said, seeing how cheap you can get 6D body only now it actually might be the better option. When I bought my 6D kit I got it for $2399, the cheapest I saw the camera for body only at the time was around $1899, so for me it made sense to buy the kit and if I didn't like the lens sell it later, but with the current market for the 6D and 24-105L, I'd probably just go body only.


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Jul 16, 2014 01:59 |  #10

FWIW, I bought the kit @ $525 more, and then sold it brand new to drop the body only price by $250.


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Jul 16, 2014 12:45 |  #11

Good responses and suggestions so far.

The way I see it though...

$1950 for KIT
-$650 for LENS
= $1300 for body

I could get the refurbished body if it goes on sale at $1291+ 7.25% tax = 1385

I would only save $85 if I bought the kit and have to go through the hassle of selling it.

So not sure... haha.


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Jul 16, 2014 13:12 |  #12

pinoyplaya wrote in post #17035761 (external link)
Good responses and suggestions so far.

The way I see it though...

$1950 for KIT
-$650 for LENS
= $1300 for body

I could get the refurbished body if it goes on sale at $1291+ 7.25% tax = 1385

I would only save $85 if I bought the kit and have to go through the hassle of selling it.

So not sure... haha.

As I said, with the current value of the body, lens and kit, I'd just get the body only. When I bought my kit there was a lot more value to it, I effectively got my 24-105L for $500 and could've sold it right then for around $750, instead I waited about a year and got $650 for it, still made $150 off of it, but you likely won't with the current market.


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Jul 16, 2014 18:08 |  #13

I will also vote body only




  
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Jul 16, 2014 19:07 |  #14

I did the exact same thing, despite being an L lens the 24-105 is exactly what its listed as, a kit lens. It's not worth it buying the kit to sell the lens, and only if you can't afford other lenses would I recommend getting the kit with lens. I sold my 60D and 18-35 for a 6D, and I have my 24-105 but I only use it for street photography, any event or shoot I switch back to the manual lenses.


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Jul 16, 2014 19:13 |  #15

The answer really depends on how useful you would find a 24-105 zoom. It is not optically on a par with some other L lenses, but some of its problems are trivial to correct in post processing. Many people are happy with it despite its limitations because it is an ideal range for some folks. I bought my FF body as a body only, thinking I would get an optically better 24-70, but I eventually realized that I wanted the extra reach on my walk-around lens, and I ended up buying it separately and paying more. Other people, like MalVeaux, don't find it useful enough to warrant the money. So the starting point really should be what you would find useful. Then issues of quality and price come into play.


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