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Jul 17, 2014 12:22 |  #1

I am just beginning to get a handle on post-processing techniques. The below shot was taken about 5 p.m. yesterday via kayak. Light was quickly alternating between direct sunlight, diffused sunlight and complete storm cloud cover. Taken with the 400 5.6L. This little guy posed for me for about 20 minutes and was not bothered by my presence because he was apparently very hungry. Subject was 15' - 20' away for this shot.

Here's a jpg of the original RAW file and the end result. Any comments or criticism welcome. I like the result, but interested in other opinions.

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Jul 17, 2014 12:58 |  #2

i like the crop and the colors better on #2


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Jul 17, 2014 13:39 |  #3

Thank you.


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Jul 17, 2014 14:15 |  #4

#2 is why we post process rather then just shoot jPeg. The detail shows much better, I especially notice the fish in the mouth where I did not notice that in #1 until looking at #2. The sheen on the feathers show so much better in #2 as well.


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Jul 17, 2014 21:22 |  #5

The processing is a definite improvement.


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Jul 19, 2014 09:53 as a reply to  @ Tiberius's post |  #6

You're certainly doing well there, not just with the pp but with the original image you've taken. Looking at #2, I'd say that the colours still look a bit flat. Difficult to be sure as the bird isn't one I've seen personally but I feel that some selective work with vibrance and saturation would pay dividends here. Perhaps also a little linear contrast adjustment in curves (assuming you have Adobe LR/ CS) Careful not to overdo it though, it isn't far off :)




  
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Jul 22, 2014 09:29 |  #7

You did very well. Great timing and really nice detail in this shot. I tend to process toward the warmer side as well but I make the call of just how warm based on the subject. In a case like this I would pull back and lean a bit cooler to better enhance the natural color of this bird.

Here's a tweak that illustrates the color temperature that I mentioned, I also brightened it a bit. That area at the base of the bird's neck is actually purplish in color, cooling the temp brought it out nicely and served as a point of reference for adjustment.

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Jul 24, 2014 19:10 |  #8

I think the last is too bright. The original was shot under clouds, so it's going to be darker. If the shot was taken under flat light, then it should look like it was. Don't try to make it something that wasn't there originally. If you want eye popping color, wait for some sun. Also, think the original, looser crop has a better feel for it. You know the bird just reached out, grabbed the fish, then retracted which all fits in the original frame. If he did that in the second crop, he would be out of frame. My .02. ;)


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Jul 24, 2014 20:01 |  #9

I like the closer crops better, but hey, I like the birds!:)


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Jul 24, 2014 21:36 |  #10

I like the crop Jim made to his original as well. My brightness adjustment was to correct underexposure. Yes, the bird was in shade but it was significantly underexposed. The color in my edit is by no means eye popping, but it is fairly accurate to the species. I was attempting to show how pushing the temperature too warm in post process can diminish or mute/muddy natural color, specifically the cooler grays of adult Tricolors and other blue variety herons and Kingfishers as examples. There's no substitute for color warmth achieved naturally during the golden hour. But like cropping, temperature is a personal taste thing. I'm not suggesting my way is THE way.


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Aug 12, 2014 22:00 |  #11

Thanks for all of the input here.


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