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Canon 7D still a relevant purchase option?

 
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Jul 17, 2014 07:44 |  #31

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So if I shoot with ISO at 3200 or greater you recommend under exposing a stop?

Think they got it backwards. You want to overexpose just a tad. Shoot to the right and pull back in post.


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Jul 17, 2014 07:56 |  #32

My only comment would be if you have any EF-S lenses they won't be compatible with the 6D as it's full frame but would work fine on the 7D (although I am happy to be corrected if I am wrong by those who know more).
I have told a few people now to consider picking up a 7D used (probably about $400-$600 or £500 in the UK), then when you get something newer, you can always either keep as a second body or trade it in.


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Jul 17, 2014 08:01 |  #33

There are some lenses like the 10-22 that you can remove some parts and use some if their zoom range before the lens and mirror meet in a bad way, but I don't think I would ever say that a EF-S lens works on a FF camera.


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Jul 17, 2014 08:32 |  #34

I won't comment which camera is better but I would like to have 4 jpeg NR options in my menu:
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Jul 17, 2014 08:39 |  #35

First of all there are 5 listed, but the first 4 all are under the fifth.


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Jul 17, 2014 08:47 |  #36

If there's no cost considerations, I'd recommend the 70D over the 7D. Not because it's newer, but because of the feature set. About the only real advantage the 7D has is a little OVF better AF system. Live view AF is clearly a win for the 70D, as is video, and it even has a small edge in noise quality at high iso (less banding). Now the problem is the 7D has been seen a couple times less than the 70D, which makes things tougher. But on the other hand if cost isn't a consideration, then I'd say most definitely wait for Photokina and consider the 7D II as it will obviously be better than either of those. However, cost is a major concern for 99% of us...




  
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Jul 17, 2014 12:38 |  #37

I think 7DII is just an empty hope.

About NR; sometimes I would need more agressive NR at high ISO to use SOOC jpegs without post work.


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Jul 18, 2014 04:03 |  #38

Thank you all for the great input. I'm looking into the 6D. How are the kit lens options for the 6D? How is the 24-105 mm L series kit lens option? Is this a good sharp lens?

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Jul 18, 2014 04:33 |  #39

Mathmans wrote in post #17037684 (external link)
I think 7DII is just an empty hope...

The time's ripe and the writing's on the wall. Its just getting a little stale. Too many are leaning towards the competition, or sacrificing body style preference for the 70D's modernization (even though the 7D AF still trumps it).

The 7D is the longest DSLR lifecycle ever; for Canon anyway.

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http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Canon_EOS-1D (external link)


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Jul 18, 2014 04:43 |  #40

ronin67 wrote in post #17039143 (external link)
Thank you all for the great input. I'm looking into the 6D. How are the kit lens options for the 6D? How is the 24-105 mm L series kit lens option? Is this a good sharp lens?

Ed

It is but it's slow for concert shooting. I'd use an 85 f1.8 or 50 f1.4. For zoom, the 17-55 f2.8 IS is a good even lens. I don't shoot concerts, but 55 seems a little on the short side unless you do close-ups.

I'd think the 24-70 f2.8 IS II would be ideal, if you have the budget.


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Jul 18, 2014 04:56 |  #41

I am very happy with my 6D in producing clean raw images.
While I try to avoid high iso I find I get clean 3200 ISO raw images even without noise reduction.
If you need the fast and more complex AF system in the 7D that is an entirely different need.


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Jul 18, 2014 07:46 |  #42

Yeah, there's a pretty large difference between 7D and 6D in terms of AF. If you're looking for ultra low light, then the 6D is the clear winner. If you're looking for fast action in good light, the 7D is the clear winner.




  
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Jul 18, 2014 07:58 |  #43

Would it be safe to say the the Canon 7D is the best selling DSLR by Canon to date? Longest run.


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Jul 18, 2014 08:23 |  #44

The best two APS cameras on the market right now are the Canon 7D and Nikon D7100. The 7D holds its own against the much newer D7100, so yes it's still relevant. In the camera world there is always something newer and "better" just around the corner. If you're waiting to have the latest and greatest you'll always be waiting. Look at the specs and read the reviews and if it does what you need then get it. I'm still shooting a 1D Mark III because it still meets my needs. I don't care that there are newer and better cameras out there. This one still does everything I need and I'll keep shooting it until it doesn't.


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Jul 18, 2014 10:15 |  #45

ronin67 wrote in post #17039143 (external link)
Thank you all for the great input. I'm looking into the 6D. How are the kit lens options for the 6D? How is the 24-105 mm L series kit lens option? Is this a good sharp lens?

Ed

It's a solid lens, but it has some compromises. Mine didn't lack for sharpness, but between 24-30mm it had heavy vignetting and distortion. The AF was fast and accurate even in low light, but the f/4 max aperture was pretty limiting for my needs so I sold mine. It's worth getting it as a kit if you think you'll use it since the lens separately does cost a bit more even used.

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The time's ripe and the writing's on the wall. Its just getting a little stale. Too many are leaning towards the competition, or sacrificing body style preference for the 70D's modernization (even though the 7D AF still trumps it).

I don't think "trumps" is the right word. To my understanding the only difference between the two cameras AF systems is a couple of AF modes (spot and expansion). The body style is purely subjective, I think most people write off the multi-controller before they even try it based on what they've read. Granted my 6D only has 11AF points, but I never found the multi-controller to slow me down at all, and I genuinely prefer having the other controls on the right side, it makes it much easier to review images and adjust various other things without taking my hand off the lens.

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It is but it's slow for concert shooting. I'd use an 85 f1.8 or 50 f1.4. For zoom, the 17-55 f2.8 IS is a good even lens. I don't shoot concerts, but 55 seems a little on the short side unless you do close-ups.

I'd think the 24-70 f2.8 IS II would be ideal, if you have the budget.

I agree that the 24-105L is slow for concert shooting, but the 17-55mm is an EF-S lens... OP was asking about it for use on a 6D.

Jon_Doh wrote in post #17039409 (external link)
The best two APS cameras on the market right now are the Canon 7D and Nikon D7100. The 7D holds its own against the much newer D7100, so yes it's still relevant. In the camera world there is always something newer and "better" just around the corner. If you're waiting to have the latest and greatest you'll always be waiting. Look at the specs and read the reviews and if it does what you need then get it. I'm still shooting a 1D Mark III because it still meets my needs. I don't care that there are newer and better cameras out there. This one still does everything I need and I'll keep shooting it until it doesn't.

Again, say for the AF modes, lack of 2 card slots (not a big deal imo) and the slightly slower burst rate, the 70D is a better camera than the 7D imo.


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