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Jul 23, 2014 15:36 |  #16

Beard Man wrote in post #17051221 (external link)
Yes exactly! I like both Canon and Nikon,if D810 feels in hand also so comfortablelike 5D Mark III I'll buy a D810,if not - 5D Mark III.
D810 is much better than 5D Mark III I think in every way: AF,Megapixels,Lens seems like have more resolution than Canon Lens (I think thats why Canon doesn't have a high Meg.Camera),buts its just my IMHO.

I really like 5D Mark III,just need to compare it how both feels in hand.

Also read Ken Rockwell about auto-focus on Canon camera (in this case 5D Mark II,I think 5D Mark III have the same) : "Unlike the 51 AF sensors with real facial recognition in Nikons, the all-sensor position of the 5D Mark II isn't very smart. It won't focus automatically on eyeballs, it tends to focus on whatever's closest. "

Thats why I also more toward to Nikon,seems like AF is extremely accurate.

I think you'll enjoy the 5D III ergonomics better. The hand well on the 5D III is nice and deep, and so you feel like you have a very solid grip of the camera. That comes in more useful with heavier lenses. It comes in extremely useful, actually. You'll love it.




  
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Jul 23, 2014 19:43 |  #17

jocau wrote in post #17051429 (external link)
The 5D3 and 1DX blow away any Nikon DSLR when it comes down to AF. As far as I know, there isn't a single Nikon DSLR which has crosstype AF points at the sides. Maybe you should read the blog post (external link) of former Nikonian Andy Rouse and why he prefers the 1DX AF system above anything Nikon has to offer (remember that the 1DX and 5D3 AF systems don't differ that much).

My bad,he mean Auto AF-Area Selection which is completely different things.


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Jul 23, 2014 19:56 |  #18

Beard Man wrote in post #17051221 (external link)
Yes exactly! I like both Canon and Nikon,if D810 feels in hand also so comfortablelike 5D Mark III I'll buy a D810,if not - 5D Mark III.
D810 is much better than 5D Mark III I think in every way: AF,Megapixels,Lens seems like have more resolution than Canon Lens (I think thats why Canon doesn't have a high Meg.Camera),buts its just my IMHO.

I really like 5D Mark III,just need to compare it how both feels in hand.

Also read Ken Rockwell about auto-focus on Canon camera (in this case 5D Mark II,I think 5D Mark III have the same) : "Unlike the 51 AF sensors with real facial recognition in Nikons, the all-sensor position of the 5D Mark II isn't very smart. It won't focus automatically on eyeballs, it tends to focus on whatever's closest. "

Thats why I also more toward to Nikon,seems like AF is extremely accurate.

The 5D3 AF is night-and-day compared to the 5D2 AF. The 5D2 AF was a low-water-mark for Canon.


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Jul 23, 2014 19:57 |  #19

Beard Man wrote in post #17051866 (external link)
My bad,he mean Auto AF-Area Selection which is completely different things.

But the 5D2 hardly had any AF points to select, so not so easy to compare.


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Jul 23, 2014 20:10 |  #20

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I think you'll enjoy the 5D III ergonomics better. The hand well on the 5D III is nice and deep, and so you feel like you have a very solid grip of the camera. That comes in more useful with heavier lenses. It comes in extremely useful, actually. You'll love it.

I agree with you!

Anytime a grab a 5D Mark III I feel like very balanced and very comfortable camera in every way.
I like button layout,perhaps this is a MAIN reason why I like Canon more: ALL MAIN functions like Metering,WB,ISO,Drive,​AF,Exposure and etc. located on the top right side of the camera.Its extremely comfortable when you holding,for example,a big heavy lens with left hand and choose any main controls using one right hand.

No need to hold one button with left hand and rotate main dial with right hand like on Nikon.


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Jul 23, 2014 20:34 |  #21

Why DxO rating all Nikon lens like more resolution than Canon?

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Jul 23, 2014 21:02 |  #22

Beard Man wrote in post #17051969 (external link)
Why DxO rating all Nikon lens like more resolution than Canon?

Any idea?

Maybe because it takes a 36MP sensor in a D800 to notice the capabilities of the Nikon lenses, while Canon only has crop bodies with a bit higher pixel density?

Or if the test is done without a body, then maybe the test platform doesn't match the optical performance of a Canon sensor as well as it match the optical performance of a Nikon/Sony sensor.


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Jul 23, 2014 21:23 |  #23

I have a 5D3 and after a few minutes holding a d800 my hand cramped up. The grip is not deep enough it seems. Which sucks because I really want one.


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Jul 23, 2014 21:26 |  #24

It's important that it isn't the fingertips that has to take the weight.

And while we use both hands while actually taking the photo, at least I tend to spend quite a lot of time in-between by holding the camera in only my right hand. So I either want the weight on the inner joints of my fingers or want a hand-strap to take up the weight.


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Jul 23, 2014 22:30 |  #25

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Maybe because it takes a 36MP sensor in a D800 to notice the capabilities of the Nikon lenses, while Canon only has crop bodies with a bit higher pixel density?

Or if the test is done without a body, then maybe the test platform doesn't match the optical performance of a Canon sensor as well as it match the optical performance of a Nikon/Sony sensor.

Hmm,well what about Photozone? ALL Nikon lenses for full frame is more resolution than Canon. :confused:


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Jul 23, 2014 22:34 |  #26

pwm2 wrote in post #17052013 (external link)
Maybe because it takes a 36MP sensor in a D800 to notice the capabilities of the Nikon lenses, while Canon only has crop bodies with a bit higher pixel density?

Or if the test is done without a body, then maybe the test platform doesn't match the optical performance of a Canon sensor as well as it match the optical performance of a Nikon/Sony sensor.

OK,here is (http://www.dxomark.com …on-D600___270_795_388_834 (external link)) Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM versus Nikkor AF-S Nikkor 85mm f/1.4G
Body on Canon is 5D Mark III and on Nikon Nikon D600,and Nikon have more resolution!And its not even D810 !


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Jul 24, 2014 00:04 |  #27

Beard Man wrote in post #17051918 (external link)
I agree with you!

Anytime a grab a 5D Mark III I feel like very balanced and very comfortable camera in every way.
I like button layout,perhaps this is a MAIN reason why I like Canon more: ALL MAIN functions like Metering,WB,ISO,Drive,​AF,Exposure and etc. located on the top right side of the camera.Its extremely comfortable when you holding,for example,a big heavy lens with left hand and choose any main controls using one right hand.

No need to hold one button with left hand and rotate main dial with right hand like on Nikon.

So here's the bottom line.

You will get magazine and publication quality shots with the Canon. Same with the Nikon. And the highest discriminating quality shots come from Hasselblads. So don't get too concerned with splitting hairs over marginal image improvements of one camera over the other unless you're talking about a Hassleblad (which 35mm can't compete with). As an industry professional, I can tell you that images shot with Canon pass scrutiny with art directors just as easily as images taken with a Nikon. And in the end, these are the shots you see in print and you marvel at when it's your favorite celebrity or a picture of a martini glass and bottle of Grey Goose vodka. So at the end of the day, after all the tests and reviews, all of us insiders will tell you that it doesn't matter much in the end between the two because they both pretty much look about the same. (Honestly, if you're curious why I shoot Canon, my answer is I shoot with Canon because it was the first body I bought back in 1997 and I just never bothered to change... And you'll find that is the same answer you'll receive from all of us.) Just buy the body that feels right. I think you know which one that is already, so just go out and get it already!!




  
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Jul 24, 2014 00:17 |  #28

Beard Man wrote in post #17051221 (external link)
D810 is much better than 5D Mark III I think in every way: AF,Megapixels,Lens seems like have more resolution than Canon Lens (I think thats why Canon doesn't have a high Meg.Camera),buts its just my IMHO.

better in every way...um, no.

http://www.digitalcame​raworld.com …rison-full-frame-dslrs/7/ (external link)

The Canon 5D Mark III remains a hugely desirable camera and is still arguably the better all-rounder. It offers slightly faster continuous shooting, albeit with smaller resolution files, more cross-type AF sensors and class-leading video quality.

If you are a serious landscape photographer, go for the 810. The rest is a toss up. Both bodies have strong points. Both are excellent. Arguing over better resolution is not going to be applicable for anything in the real world.


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Jul 24, 2014 00:22 |  #29

I wish I can afford a 5D MK3, I guess I'm happy with a 7D :D hehe. But if I have the money, I would definitely go with the 5DMK3.




  
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Jul 24, 2014 01:26 |  #30

I have never held a d810 but personally for me, I have never picked up a Nikon that felt good in my hands. I am not knocking the cameras in any way but they way they felt in my hands was awkward and cumbersome. I much prefer the feel of Canon. You need to put both cameras in your hands to figure out which feels better for you.




  
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