Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
Thread started 26 Jan 2013 (Saturday) 10:20
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

A New Bare Bulb Flash Arrives

 
abbadon31
Goldmember
Avatar
4,927 posts
Gallery: 261 photos
Best ofs: 10
Likes: 4016
Joined Jul 2009
Location: SOCAL
     
Jul 25, 2014 10:51 |  #4876

I have godox neewer and cheetahstand labeled packs and they all no issues of never running out of power


I AM SHOM

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
BamPhoto
Goldmember
Avatar
3,098 posts
Likes: 57
Joined Sep 2005
Location: AZ-USA
     
Jul 25, 2014 10:53 |  #4877

I have 1 Cheetah and 1 Flashpoint (Adorama), after reading about the batteries I opened both up and the cheetah is still 3/4 but the flashpoint is dead. Will recharge and test extensively, looks like I may get to find out how Adorama handles their warranty?


Randy
My Gear List and Feedback
Website (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
James1usa
Mostly Lurking
10 posts
Joined Nov 2009
     
Jul 25, 2014 12:21 |  #4878

Nismode wrote in post #17054184 (external link)
Thanks for all your opinions. I feel like I would need something bigger than 12" possibly. I've heard some stuff about the foldable BD, is that any good/bigger?

Are you referring to the Godox AD-S7 folding octabox? Have 2 of those and they are great. I use in the field with one aimed chest high and one aimed lower and get full body coverage when needed. They come with a grid, diffuser, deflector and bag, and closed are the size of a small fold up umbrella, so very easy to carry in the field.

Never seen at Cheetahstand, I bought mine off HK ebay for $35 and more recent $42 each. Seems they were out of stock for a while and now the price is up a bit.

Edit: just measured the AD-S7 octabox. While they may be labeled at 18", the actually reflector part is 16" wide by 9" deep. Very close to my old 16" Cheetah metal BD and a lot easier to travel with, not just because of foldability, but they slip right on to the light without any extra brackets.

Re the battery question, my CL360 battery and 2 MH4500 batteries seem to always be at full charge. Getting 800 plus photos before they start to deplete, but then I shoot mostly 1/2 power or less.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
CAPhotog
Senior Member
334 posts
Joined May 2012
     
Jul 25, 2014 13:06 |  #4879

I have a Calumet branded battery pack. I used it with the 360 last month for an all day fashion shoot outdoors. I fully charged it the night before and barely got through the day with roughly 450 pops ranging 1/4 to full power. Not bad, but I expected more based on the info in this forum. It did seem the charge level indicator wasn't reliable. I could swear it was at three lights for the longest time, then quickly died so I had to tell everyone during the last model & outfit that I was out of power. I got what I needed, but that was cutting it close. I ordered a spare battery for next time, but haven't had an opportunity to cycle through again. It would be nice if there was something like the LaCrosse or Powerex chargers used for AA batteries that could check and recondition the battery pack. Or does that not work with lithium types?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
abbadon31
Goldmember
Avatar
4,927 posts
Gallery: 261 photos
Best ofs: 10
Likes: 4016
Joined Jul 2009
Location: SOCAL
     
Jul 25, 2014 14:29 |  #4880

its a lipo 3s 11.1v battery inside you would need a special charger and it you have to install a balance plug.


I AM SHOM

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mmmfotografie
hanging up-side-down in a cave
2,114 posts
Likes: 491
Joined Jul 2013
Location: Helsinki Airport
     
Jul 25, 2014 14:32 |  #4881

Recycle does not work for lithium batteries. After a few initial charges the battery is best and then it get weaker but very slightly just like battery of a phone.

If you want be sure get extra spare.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mmmfotografie
hanging up-side-down in a cave
2,114 posts
Likes: 491
Joined Jul 2013
Location: Helsinki Airport
     
Jul 25, 2014 14:36 |  #4882

abbadon31 wrote in post #17055808 (external link)
its a lipo 3s 11.1v battery inside you would need a special charger and it you have to install a balance plug.

Are you really sure it is a lipo?!? Seems strange to me if you look that the led on the charger is lit when connected to the batterypack while not connected to the mains.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
pwm2
"Sorry for being a noob"
Avatar
8,626 posts
Likes: 3
Joined May 2007
Location: Sweden
     
Jul 25, 2014 14:50 |  #4883

Missing a diode to block reverse current. Or is it using same connector for charging and for powering the lights?


5DMk2 + BG-E6 | 40D + BG-E2N | 350D + BG-E3 + RC-1 | Elan 7E | Minolta Dimage 7U | (Gear thread)
10-22 | 16-35/2.8 L II | 20-35 | 24-105 L IS | 28-135 IS | 40/2.8 | 50/1.8 II | 70-200/2.8 L IS | 100/2.8 L IS | 100-400 L IS | Sigma 18-200DC
Speedlite 420EZ | Speedlite 580EX | EF 1.4x II | EF 2x II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mmmfotografie
hanging up-side-down in a cave
2,114 posts
Likes: 491
Joined Jul 2013
Location: Helsinki Airport
     
Jul 25, 2014 15:38 |  #4884

@Scott: read more about these type of batteries and when the voltage is 11.1 then it must be a LiPo.
@pwm2: it uses the same wires for charging and connecting to the connectors on top.

My understanding of LiPo was that the charging leads and the power delivery leads were separated but that is always not necessary.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
draderusa
Senior Member
Avatar
317 posts
Likes: 5
Joined Dec 2012
Location: Missouri, US
     
Jul 25, 2014 15:38 |  #4885

mmmfotografie wrote in post #17055822 (external link)
Are you really sure it is a lipo?!? Seems strange to me if you look that the led on the charger is lit when connected to the batterypack while not connected to the mains.

I too doubt it is Lithium Polymer. They are very volatile due to their more unstable chemistry. I have those for my RC Aircraft due to their high power to weight ratio and they all have balance plugs installed and come with warnings about fire risk due to improper charging. They are all charged on special balancing chargers. No wall wart chargers like these batteries have.


Dave
EOS 7D Mark II, EOS T4i -- EFS 18-135 STM, EFS 10-22 USM, EF 40 f2.8 STM, EF 50 f1.4, 600EX-RT (3), YN-E3-RT, AD-360, FT16 (2), YN560II, YN622C (4), YN622C-TX

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
draderusa
Senior Member
Avatar
317 posts
Likes: 5
Joined Dec 2012
Location: Missouri, US
     
Jul 25, 2014 15:39 |  #4886

mmmfotografie wrote in post #17055956 (external link)
@Scott: read more about these type of batteries and when the voltage is 11.1 then it must be a LiPo.
@pwm2: it uses the same wires for charging and connecting to the connectors on top.

My understanding of LiPo was that the charging leads and the power delivery leads were separated but that is always not necessary.

Wow..learn something new every day. I stand corrected.


Dave
EOS 7D Mark II, EOS T4i -- EFS 18-135 STM, EFS 10-22 USM, EF 40 f2.8 STM, EF 50 f1.4, 600EX-RT (3), YN-E3-RT, AD-360, FT16 (2), YN560II, YN622C (4), YN622C-TX

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
pwm2
"Sorry for being a noob"
Avatar
8,626 posts
Likes: 3
Joined May 2007
Location: Sweden
     
Jul 25, 2014 15:52 |  #4887

LiPo is just a subclassification of LiIon batteries - and allows thinner, lighter batteries with less need of thick shell around it. The alternatives would mainly be lead-acid, NiMH or the older NiCd.


5DMk2 + BG-E6 | 40D + BG-E2N | 350D + BG-E3 + RC-1 | Elan 7E | Minolta Dimage 7U | (Gear thread)
10-22 | 16-35/2.8 L II | 20-35 | 24-105 L IS | 28-135 IS | 40/2.8 | 50/1.8 II | 70-200/2.8 L IS | 100/2.8 L IS | 100-400 L IS | Sigma 18-200DC
Speedlite 420EZ | Speedlite 580EX | EF 1.4x II | EF 2x II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
c2thew
Goldmember
Avatar
3,929 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Aug 2008
Location: Not enough minerals.
     
Jul 26, 2014 17:41 |  #4888

Question: Can you use the ad360 strobe while the battery is plugged into the charging adapter? Ergo: making the strobe setup less reliant on draining the lithium battery?


Flickr (external link) |Gear|The-Digital-Picture (external link)|The $6 mic | MAGIC LANTERN (external link) | Welding Filter
Go Support Magic Lantern 2.3!!

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jcolman
Goldmember
2,645 posts
Gallery: 17 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 502
Joined Mar 2008
Location: North Carolina
     
Jul 26, 2014 18:02 |  #4889

c2thew wrote in post #17057972 (external link)
Question: Can you use the ad360 strobe while the battery is plugged into the charging adapter? Ergo: making the strobe setup less reliant on draining the lithium battery?

You most likely won't drain the battery unless you tend to shoot 5000 or more pics at a time. I can shoot three weddings, averaging over 1200 pics per wedding, on one charge.


www.jimcolmanphotograp​hy.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
windpig
Chopped liver
Avatar
14,915 posts
Gallery: 6 photos
Likes: 1223
Joined Dec 2008
Location: Just South of Ballard
     
Jul 26, 2014 18:19 |  #4890

jcolman wrote in post #17058010 (external link)
I can shoot three weddings, averaging over 1200 pics per wedding, on one charge.

Could you even imagine this 5 years ago?


Would you like to buy a vowel?
Go ahead, spin the wheel.
flickr (external link)
I'm accross the canal just south of Ballard, the town Seattle usurped in 1907.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

1,298,328 views & 272 likes for this thread
A New Bare Bulb Flash Arrives
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Crazeenick
829 guests, 312 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.