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What would you replace the 24-105mm with and why?

 
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Jul 27, 2014 08:46 |  #1

I just got a 6d and I want to know before the thirty days is up I want to decide if I should return the lens for something else. I got the lens separately so I can return it with a small restocking fee.
What lenses would you get instead? Just your personal preference and reasons is what I want to know.

edit: i've decided to return the lens and pick up samyang 14mm and 24mm.
edit2: nope I'm keeping it but still buying both 14 and 24 samyang.
edit3: I'm returning it. First, I don't really wish for it, but I thought I might 'need' the versatility. Second, I will try to get used to manual primes. Third, too many people saying that the IQ isn't impressive. I've yet to test it out because then I can't return it for full price.



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Jul 27, 2014 09:06 |  #2

24-105 is my go-to lens for a lot of my work; journalism, groups, team and individuals, etc. Great value, relatively small and light, and I find the extra focal length a plus over the 24-70 unless I really need the extra stop of speed.

If you are thinking of returning it, you must have something in mind to replace it; what is that, and why? (What is the main "focus" of your work?




  
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Jul 27, 2014 09:20 |  #3

I know that I need a lens like this and I've had the 17-70mm for t2i and I liked the focal range of that. But right now I don't do a lot of typical photography due to work but I really want to do some Milky Way photos. But I can't fund for a lens and I thought maybe I can return the 24-105 for now and maybe pick up something else in the future to replace it or just get the same lens back.
I want to return it so I can get the samyang 24mm f1.4 and samyang 14mm f2.8



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Jul 27, 2014 12:23 |  #4

Quit second guessing yourself. Go out and use what you have and determine what the real shortcomings are for the gear you have. There have been some great images taken with that combination and a smaller sensor is never going to be as good as the 6D's with current technology out there.


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Jul 27, 2014 12:37 |  #5

The 24-105L, while not my "best" lens in terms of image quality, is still my most-used lens. It is just too versatile a focal range for me to do without.


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Jul 27, 2014 18:05 |  #6

Most of the people who "beat up" the 24-105 are trying to justify their purchase of the more expensive 24-70 f/2.8L II lenses.

I own both and would not be without a 24-105, although the 24-70 f/2.8L II has its advantages as well.


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Jul 27, 2014 18:13 |  #7

Tapeman wrote in post #17059967 (external link)
Most of the people who "beat up" the 24-105 are trying to justify their purchase of the more expensive 24-70 f/2.8L II lenses.

I own both and would not be without a 24-105, although the 24-70 f/2.8L II has its advantages as well.

My 24-70 II is noticeably sharper than my 24-105 and that is all the justification I need.


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Jul 28, 2014 02:10 |  #8

24-105mm f/4 i HATE this lens
it's years and years and years ... now that my is getting rotten on the shelve (my wife use it and like it :( )
The IQ i'm disappointed, f/4 too slow for me, so it's just a kit lens for me*
replace it by primes like 24f/1.4, 30 or 35f/1.4, 85f/1.4 and the 100f/2.8 macro
Why these ranges because it cover all needs that offer the 24-105 (and it's my personal vision of it ;) which can be very different from yours ;) )


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Jul 28, 2014 09:12 |  #9

Not sure I follow; you want to do Milky Way photos, and to do that you want to replace the 24-105 with a 24mm lens? Wouldn't Milky Way photos be better done with a longer lens than a 24mm?? (or even the 105 end of the zoom)

pkim1230 wrote in post #17059012 (external link)
I know that I need a lens like this and I've had the 17-70mm for t2i and I liked the focal range of that. But right now I don't do a lot of typical photography due to work but I really want to do some Milky Way photos. But I can't fund for a lens and I thought maybe I can return the 24-105 for now and maybe pick up something else in the future to replace it or just get the same lens back.
I want to return it so I can get the samyang 24mm f1.4 but now I'm actually thinking of switching over to fujifilm mirror less cameras and return both the 24-105 and the 6d as well.. but no that's not really true. Then there's too many lenses I'll be missing out on.




  
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Jul 28, 2014 09:25 |  #10

Phototeacher wrote in post #17061190 (external link)
Not sure I follow; you want to do Milky Way photos, and to do that you want to replace the 24-105 with a 24mm lens? Wouldn't Milky Way photos be better done with a longer lens than a 24mm?? (or even the 105 end of the zoom)

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Jul 28, 2014 09:27 as a reply to  @ Phototeacher's post |  #11

Keep it and use it.

Find out what you don't like about it before you lens jump around and waste time and money. This will give you a more informed decision in the future.


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Jul 28, 2014 10:35 as a reply to  @ FarmerTed1971's post |  #12

Keep it
you will need that focal length for general use
i sold it three times


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Jul 28, 2014 10:51 |  #13

Did anyone say 24-70/4L yet? At least it has macro function....


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Jul 28, 2014 11:14 as a reply to  @ borismach's post |  #14

Well,

First, I'd look at what sorts of things I photograph. Then I'd consider what lens to use. If I'm going to be doing grizzly bears, I'd replace the 24-105 with a 600 4.0. For Macro stuff I'd be using a 100 2.8 or 65 mp-e. If I want a lens that "does it all" I'll be disappointed no matter what I choose.

Personally, I find the 24-105 useful enough on my 6D (less so on my 7D) that I'd be hard pressed to replace it with anything. 24-70 might be an alternative to cover a similar range but I don't really see much point in going that route for the most part.


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Jul 28, 2014 11:53 |  #15

borismach wrote in post #17061440 (external link)
Did anyone say 24-70/4L yet? At least it has macro function....

The 24-70IS is sharper all over, and has less distortion at the wide end. (I can live with the lesser amount in the 24-105 - to me it's not that bad.)

The "effective" purchase price is much higher for the 24-70IS (like double).

.7X Macro at a working distance of less than two inches - no thanks. (I'll stick a two lens achromatic lens/filter on the 24-105L for that.)

It goes to only 70mm.
(If I am going to use an f/4 or slower lens, I personally would rather have range. I definitely can see getting an f/2.8 zoom lens over the f/4. As a matter of fact, I also have primes as well as a "normal" range f/2.8 zoom. I have the 24-105L for travel and nice day outings. Though picked up a sharp copy of the 28-135IS to see if I could do that instead of the L. I doubt I'll switch, just like the "feel" of the L better.)

So the only worthwhile improvement (to/for me) is 4 stop hybrid IS (instead of 3 stop normal IS).

To the OP - I would rather have an f/2.8 zoom before the f/4. YMMV


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