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Jul 29, 2014 00:39 |  #31

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I have a few question for you, So why are you here? if you like Nikon better then Canon then why ask us? If you look at all the major sports NFL NBA Canon is the official camera, President Obama photographer uses Canon 5d III.

I love my Canon camera and I will always be a Canon man.

I'm here because i'm canon guy, but i see that nikon is doing better job for now. That's why i'm interested what can convince to stay on canon.


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Jul 29, 2014 00:46 as a reply to  @ rapurimanka's post |  #32

To be able to use the 17 and 24 TSE lenses is a good enough reason to stick with Canon for the time being :D


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Jul 29, 2014 01:24 |  #33

If you were to switch every time one of the big two got one up on each other, you'd end up spending a fortune!

Who knows what Canon will release next?


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Jul 29, 2014 01:31 |  #34

For most things the brand won't matter. Plenty of heated discussion here on brand,/type of camera etc. There is so much choice. It's a great time to be into digital photography (even better if you have loads of money). Some models do one thing better than another or suit a user better because of x or y, but if you take any modern interchangeable lens camera it be hard to truly say it can't do a good job.

I think a lot of people worry more about gear than actual photos


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Jul 29, 2014 01:56 |  #35

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I'm here because i'm canon guy, but i see that nikon is doing better job for now. That's why i'm interested what can convince to stay on canon.

How about you try the Nikon camera out and see if it is as good as dx0 mark says it is. Maybe see if in your area you can rent out a d800 or d610 for a week, then go out and shoot the hell out of it and compare for yourself.


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Jul 29, 2014 02:09 |  #36

You must think of reliability. I think of Canon as tried and true. Nikon has some great qualities but unreliable as well as expensive.

If your getting paid and even one shot doesn't come out, your client will notice. If your camera fails or your focus goes nuts, your client will know. If your flash doesn't trigger and you miss the shot, your client know.

But....

If your dynamic range is 11 instead of 13, your client has no clue. You kick in the vibrance in Lightroom and your done.

imo

Nikon = Studio photographers
Canon = Everyone else

I've played this game many times and it always comes down to reliability. If you don't care about reliability and solely on image quality, you should always be carrying a tripod and only shoot HDR.
Also the 600ex rt is a game changer for weddings. 100% reliable radio trigger which nikon is probably delivering with the D820. They are always behind the curve with technology but ahead of the curve with image quality. That's like have a 1000 hp engine with skinny tires. The system needs to work as a whole.

In conclusion I still want the the D810. Can I borrow some money?


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Jul 29, 2014 03:06 |  #37

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I'm just an amateur photographer, i don't earn money by photo :)

If your dynamic range is 11 instead of 13, your client has no clue. You kick in the vibrance in Lightroom and your done.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but what color saturation has to do with DR? I thought DR is about ability of camera to preserve details in bright and dark parts of frame.


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Jul 29, 2014 03:35 |  #38

You blow out the sky with limited DR. Increased vibrance means stronger blues which fakes DR.

Your hobby will become professional, once you are reliable in every condition.


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Jul 29, 2014 03:44 |  #39

Nikons have way better dynamic range, fact. If i were a landscape / interior photographer i would have stuck with my nikon glass and got a d800e. But i'm a wedding photographer and when the d800 / canon 5d iii were released, i quickly realised that i canon was a better all round wedding camera and made the bold decision to ditch nikon and jump ship to canon. I don't regret it, but i do really really hope that the next 5d to be released has nikon esque DR...that'd be dream land for me :D


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Jul 29, 2014 03:48 |  #40

enginyr wrote in post #17063151 (external link)
You must think of reliability. I think of Canon as tried and true. Nikon has some great qualities but unreliable as well as expensive.

Im sure both systems have had their fair share of problems


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Jul 29, 2014 04:13 |  #41

Canon has its problems. Luckily they have worked through them, yielding very reliable gear. You wouldn't know because all your equipment is pretty flawless. If you went Nikon, you would pay much more with less reliability. Once you have something fail in the field, you'll know what reliability means. Btw, Why not go for the a7s. Nikon has had very serious autofocus issues which have been fixed, hopefully with the 810. Will know soon enough


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Jul 29, 2014 06:30 |  #42

[QUOTE=enginyr;1706323​3]Canon has its problems. Luckily they have worked through them, yielding very reliable gear./QUOTE]

hmmm i don't think the 70d focus issues have been fixed yet,canon hasn't admitted theres a prob yet.


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Jul 29, 2014 06:36 |  #43

N2bnfunn wrote in post #17063033 (external link)
I have a few question for you, So why are you here? if you like Nikon better then Canon then why ask us? If you look at all the major sports NFL NBA Canon is the official camera, President Obama photographer uses Canon 5d III.

I love my Canon camera and I will always be a Canon man.

Ahhh with such discerning logic like this in the user base.
Not a lot of point in Canon catching up with Nikon in the Sensor arena. Why should they bother, when they can just put a new badge on it; and make shed loads more profit!

You surely can't really mean that!


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Jul 29, 2014 07:11 |  #44
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N2bnfunn wrote in post #17063033 (external link)
I have a few question for you, So why are you here? if you like Nikon better then Canon then why ask us? If you look at all the major sports NFL NBA Canon is the official camera, President Obama photographer uses Canon 5d III.

I love my Canon camera and I will always be a Canon man.

Maybe there are people here that use both systems that might offer non-biased, non fanboy advice. Obviously not you.

OP, I wanted to switch to the D800e for years...but my investment in Canon mount lenses just made the switch economically not doable. I also thought Canon would be releasing a high Rez high dynamic range camera any day...wishful thinking.

When the A7R was released, I jumped onto it. Not only does it provide the same great sensor that is in the D800e, it also takes all my lenses...and to boot, it is very compact. I am extremely pleased with my choice, the images from the A7R are amazing. I still have my Canon cameras and use the Canon cameras for sports or events, but for landscape images the A7R images are just that much better.




  
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Jul 29, 2014 07:13 |  #45
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enginyr wrote in post #17063151 (external link)
You must think of reliability. I think of Canon as tried and true. Nikon has some great qualities but unreliable as well as expensive.

If your getting paid and even one shot doesn't come out, your client will notice. If your camera fails or your focus goes nuts, your client will know. If your flash doesn't trigger and you miss the shot, your client know.

But....

If your dynamic range is 11 instead of 13, your client has no clue. You kick in the vibrance in Lightroom and your done.

imo

Nikon = Studio photographers
Canon = Everyone else

I've played this game many times and it always comes down to reliability. If you don't care about reliability and solely on image quality, you should always be carrying a tripod and only shoot HDR.
Also the 600ex rt is a game changer for weddings. 100% reliable radio trigger which nikon is probably delivering with the D820. They are always behind the curve with technology but ahead of the curve with image quality. That's like have a 1000 hp engine with skinny tires. The system needs to work as a whole.

In conclusion I still want the the D810. Can I borrow some money?

Vibrance has nothing to do with dynamic range. So much for your advice.




  
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