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Jul 29, 2014 07:14 |  #46
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enginyr wrote in post #17063201 (external link)
You blow out the sky with limited DR. Increased vibrance means stronger blues which fakes DR.

Your hobby will become professional, once you are reliable in every condition.

Totally wrong...once you blow out a highlight...it is gone. No fiddling in LR will rescue from a blown highlight.




  
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Jul 29, 2014 07:16 |  #47
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enginyr wrote in post #17063233 (external link)
Canon has its problems. Luckily they have worked through them, yielding very reliable gear./QUOTE]

hmmm i don't think the 70d focus issues have been fixed yet,canon hasn't admitted theres a prob yet.

Some people have selective hearing / reading.




  
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Jul 29, 2014 07:27 |  #48

Hogloff wrote in post #17063434 (external link)
Totally wrong...once you blow out a highlight...it is gone. No fiddling in LR will rescue from a blown highlight.

I believe that every camera had some leeway beyond the histogram it displays to account for clipping (or so I've read. But I think most people lower highlights in LR and think they are recovering detail but don't realize that at least one of the the color channels is clipped, possibly more.




  
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Jul 29, 2014 08:45 |  #49

A camera system is more than the sensor. Both Nikon and Canon are good, but I believe Canon has a larger selection of high quality lenses that are "affordable." Canon also has more speciality lenses that I'll never use.


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captainkanji wrote in post #17063607 (external link)
A camera system is more than the sensor. Both Nikon and Canon are good, but I believe Canon has a larger selection of high quality lenses that are "affordable." Canon also has more speciality lenses that I'll never use.

Yes, Canon has a bunch of great lenses...many of which the vast majority will never use. It makes me chuckle when someone says they stay with Canon because of the great lens like the 17tse, and when you look at their equipment they have a kit lens and a consumer zoom like the 28-200.




  
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Jul 29, 2014 09:03 |  #51

Some time back i think canon was considered as a poor mans nikon, in the early 80s canons AE1 was an affordable decent camera that produced excellent pictures, then in the late 80s came the EOS 650 first canon AF camera, this in my opinion was a state of the art benchmark camera, nikon did have alternative cameras but they were considered just a little more flash, expensive and aimed at the more pro-enthusiast.

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Jul 29, 2014 09:28 as a reply to  @ Pagman's post |  #52

For me, either my 6D has the DR range needed including a stop or two of shadow lift (almost all of the time) or it ain't close to capturing the full visible-to-the-eye DR (most of the rest of the time and the Nikon wouldn't fare better in these extreme conditions). Very few shots out of tens of thousands where an extra stop or two of DR by shadow lifting of the Nikon would have saved the shot. I'm not a landscape shooter by trade so your mileage may vary and you have to decide if the difference is a game changer for you.


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Jul 29, 2014 09:48 |  #53
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Gobeatty wrote in post #17063680 (external link)
For me, either my 6D has the DR range needed including a stop or two of shadow lift (almost all of the time) or it ain't close to capturing the full visible-to-the-eye DR (most of the rest of the time and the Nikon wouldn't fare better in these extreme conditions). Very few shots out of tens of thousands where an extra stop or two of DR by shadow lifting of the Nikon would have saved the shot. I'm not a landscape shooter by trade so your mileage may vary and you have to decide if the difference is a game changer for you.

I am a landscape shooter and with my 5D2 I almost always needed a 2-stop or 3-stop GND filter to handle the dynamic range. With the A7R...its a rare occasion that I need a GND except for extreme dynamic range like full on sunset. It truly makes landscape photography much more enjoyable.:)




  
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Jul 29, 2014 10:16 |  #54

Yes, if you want the best of Nikon and the best of Canon, you add a Sony A7 series camera to your kit and an adapter for the lenses.
Like another said up in the comments earlier, I plan on switching between A Sony A7R or A7S and a 5D3 in most of my shooting, because each of them has qualities that the other does not duplicate.


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Jul 29, 2014 12:29 |  #55

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Yes, if you want the best of Nikon and the best of Canon, you add a Sony A7 series camera to your kit and an adapter for the lenses.
Like another said up in the comments earlier, I plan on switching between A Sony A7R or A7S and a 5D3 in most of my shooting, because each of them has qualities that the other does not duplicate.

All cameras you mentioned (Sony A7R or A7S and a 5D3) can be replaced just with one - D810 !


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Jul 29, 2014 12:41 |  #56

Paulowen wrote in post #17063068 (external link)
To be able to use the 17 and 24 TSE lenses is a good enough reason to stick with Canon for the time being :D

I have those lenses and now use them on all my Sony A7 series bodies. ;)




  
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Jul 29, 2014 12:43 |  #57

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Jul 29, 2014 12:47 |  #58
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Beard Man wrote in post #17064066 (external link)
All cameras you mentioned (Sony A7R or A7S and a 5D3) can be replaced just with one - D810 !

Not if I want to continue using my assorted Canon mount lenses.




  
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Jul 29, 2014 12:49 |  #59

Hogloff wrote in post #17064117 (external link)
Not if I want to continue using my assorted Canon mount lenses.

Just buy an A7 body. Done!




  
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Jul 29, 2014 14:56 |  #60

Well, guys, thank you. You are the best! That was really constructive conversation here.

Really, I’m happy with my 6d, but I always looking for better. I guess I’ll try renting D810 and if Canon won't announce anything good next year, I’ll think about switching.

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