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Help me decide 24-105mm f/4L IS vs 24-70mm f/2.8L version ONE

 
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Jul 28, 2014 16:00 |  #1

Its pretty obvious the 24-70 version TWO is a sharper lens than the 24-105. How ever how does the 24-105 compare to the old 24-70 version ONE. For reference from another view... the link below shows a test of the V1 vs v2. The worst v2 tested was still better than the best v1. I would like to see some kind of upgrade if I decide to sell the 24-105.

http://petapixel.com …-the-mark-i-in-sharpness/ (external link)
My situation is as follows:

I like to use my 24-105 as my walk around lens. It does the job very well. So the lens in question will be my general go to lens when on vacation, visit new places or want to travel light. Keep in mind the version ONE can be had for around $1000 vs the version TWO at $1700 both lightly used.

I plan to add a 16-35 to my collection and upgrading my 70-200 f4 IS to a 70-200 2.8 IS with a x1.4. I also have a 50mm 1.4 which I may swap out for a 1.2 however this is all depent on which lens I decide on.

I am not a professional, just an enthusiast who enjoys all types of shooting.


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Jul 28, 2014 17:14 |  #2

If you are mostly shooting outdoors - 24-105. I do a lot of indoor sports - so I use the 24-70 V1 with great success.


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Jul 28, 2014 17:22 |  #3

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=0​&APIComp=0 (external link)

Always refer to benchmarking sites if you want to check lenses first.


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Jul 28, 2014 17:34 |  #4

Doostur wrote in post #17062141 (external link)
So the lens in question will be my general go to lens when on vacation, visit new places or want to travel light.

24-105 f/4 IS = 670g

24-70 f/2.8 Version 1 = 950g

Did you say you wanted to travel light?

Plus the weight of the camera.

I do find the 24-105 light but I carry the 70-200 f/2.8 IS when I am not carrying the 24-105 so everything is relative.

If weight is the biggest issue and most of your photography is either outdoors in good light or with a flash, consider the 28-135 f/3.5-5.6 IS which, at 540g, is a good bit lighter and, on full frame, you are not giving up much of anything (again outdoors or with flash) in the way of IQ. And you can get one mint/used for as little as $200. (Others love the 28-105 but I found the 28-135 IS to be worlds better on full frame, that is.)




  
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Jul 28, 2014 17:37 |  #5

I doubt you would gain more than you lose. I like the focal length range of the 24-105 and I use it as often as my 24-70L II.
I would not buy a version I of the 24-70 f/2.8L. If you pixel peep there are some shots the 24-70 will be better, but I don't see much value in switching.


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Jul 28, 2014 18:15 |  #6

I owned the 24-105 f/4 when I shot with the Canon system. Now I own and shoot with the Nikon 28-70 f/2.8 which is comparable to both the Canon 24-70 f2.8 and 28-70 f/2.8 in optics and weight. If I were choosing any of those lens to carry around for day to day use or while traveling on vacation it would be without a doubt the 24-105 f/4. It's lighter and has very good optics for what you're mentioning you want it for.

My 28-70 f/2.8 is heavy and after carrying around for awhile I notice.


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Jul 28, 2014 18:35 |  #7

I have the 24-70 mkI and am planning to add (not replace it with) a 24-105. If you get a good copy of the 24-70 it will likely be sharper than the 24-105, but it will not have IS or that extra reach.

I love having the max aperture because it improves AF accuracy, even if you're not using the lens wide open. And if you need that extra narrow DOF... well. However, I do need the extra range of the 24-105 sometimes, and in low light at longer FL, IS is valuable to me regardless of the aperture I choose.

Sorry, no easy answer till you decide which features are more important. Maybe rent/borrow each and try them out first?


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Jul 28, 2014 21:20 |  #8

Having shot both, I'd go with the 24-105L or save your money and get the Tamron 28-75/2.8. I found the 24-70L mk1 to be noticeably softer than the 24-105L and also noticeably bigger and heavier. That said, either lens is good at what they do.


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Jul 28, 2014 21:50 |  #9

In spite of the common misconception that Canon/Nikon designers don't ever make the camera/lenses we like, I think they are smarter than they are given the credit for. I think the proof is that Canon has made the 24-105 the "kit" lens for the 5D series.

I bought mine when I started digital photography to pair with a 30D - it's even more useful on my 5DII.

It was the lens I used almost exclusively during three weeks in Luxembourg/Paris/Moden​a last fall. I only used the 70-200 + 2X at the Belgian Grand Prix.

It's only one stop slower than f/2.8, and by using the ISO one stop higher than one normally does (that plus the IS), it's a no brainer for me at least. The extra reach was very useful.

On another (now closed) thread, there was comment that there were many 24-105 lenses for sale online and that was proof that Canon didn't make good lenses (Nikon guy I guess); the reason there are so many is that quite a few people buy the 5D series kit with the intent of selling the 24-105 to fund a specialty lens (the 24/105 is a very good bargain in the "kit").

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Jul 28, 2014 22:00 |  #10

Another vote for the 24-105. Easily my most useful lens. I never go anywhere without it in my bag.


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Jul 29, 2014 06:32 |  #11

Thanks everyone for your excellent input. I have decided to keep the 24-105 until I can save some funds for the 24-70 mark ii (I still plan to keep both). I am currently in Rome and visited the Vatican this morning. The extra reach came in handy as it has most of my trip during Europe.

I guess I was just hoping to get away with a v1 and get the IQ of the v2. For now I'll just borrow my buddies v2 ;)


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Jul 29, 2014 09:21 |  #12

I would avoid the 24-70mk1, obnoxiously big. IQ is ok, but that hood is out of this world. If you want to look like a pro, certainly get it.


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Jul 29, 2014 10:42 |  #13

I used 24-70 m1 on my 6d and I wasnt very happy with the results especially at 24 mm 2.8. Then I replaced it with 24-105 It makes more sense to me and I like color-contrast on 24-105. 35mm on tele end matters to me and I am never regret replacing!




  
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Jul 29, 2014 12:50 |  #14

Charlie wrote in post #17063665 (external link)
I would avoid the 24-70mk1, obnoxiously big. IQ is ok, but that hood is out of this world. If you want to look like a pro, certainly get it.

It also is properly designed to shield the lens both at 24mm and 70mm due to the lens' reverse-zooming design. Far more effective than the mkII hood. And I don't care what my gear looks like to other people, only that it does its job. :)


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Jul 29, 2014 17:30 |  #15

don't waste your time doubting about both, I had all of them and best price/quality is the Tamron 24-70 2.8VC (I have the best Canon L portrait lenses, i'm not on a budget, i'm more a prime guy but this is definitely the best price/quality).


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