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Jul 30, 2014 14:29 |  #31

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This is an absolute gem of a lens for the money.

I have the 50 1.4 and am not super impressed. I do like it on full frame 5D mkIII. but on 50d that does not have the focusing points of the mkIII found I struggled with the combo to get sharp images. Big difference in image quality on this lens from 1.4 ----> 2.0 -----> 2.8

are you talking about the canon's or the sigma's?
maybe I should save more and get the 85L? or wait for a new version of the 35 which is rumored to be sometime this year, right?


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Jul 30, 2014 23:02 |  #32

I'm not sure if you haven't change your mind. :) Haven't read all pages.

If you still want travel, walk around lens which will give you nice bokeh, you have two choices.

Fast f2.8 normal range zoom. I prefer Tamron on my Rebel for it. 28-75 2.8.
At 28 it is wide enough for travel, at 75 2.8 it will gives you heck a lot of bokeh.
I'll try to find something to show you here, later. It is very sharp lens on Rebel at 2.8 also.

If you want fast prime as travel and portrait prime on Rebel, here is classic FOV at 50mm.
For your camera it means 30-35mm prime. I would check on Sigma or Canon L.
I went with 50 1.8 on Rebel to UK once, honestly, it was too narrow for walk around. I was constantly switching to kit lens to have it wider.


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Jul 31, 2014 06:01 |  #33

I never had a really fast lens (faster than f2.8) so I am not sure that a 24-70 or something like that will satisfy me, at least for now. I will definately upgrade to the 24-70 2.8 sometime, but for now I just want a lens that will have a lot of background blur, for portraits as well as low light as a bonus.


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Jul 31, 2014 08:26 as a reply to  @ post 17065661 |  #34

If your camera cannot calibrate the len's focus ( micro-adjust function), I would recommend the sigma art series and it's calibrating dock accessory. For portraits on a crop camera, the sigma 50 Art. If you opt for a cheaper lens, go sigma 50 classic or the 85 f 1.8. However, chances are you will need to send your camera and lens to service for calibration. Or you can opt to avoid shooting wide open so you don't need to calibrate.


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Aug 01, 2014 02:10 |  #35

can't I just return the lens to the store and have theem micro adjust it for me? in case it is actually front/back-focusing


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Aug 01, 2014 08:28 |  #36

Romax12 wrote in post #17069652 (external link)
can't I just return the lens to the store and have theem micro adjust it for me? in case it is actually front/back-focusing

No,

It has to be calibrated to YOUR camera. Each is different.

Personally I just send the lens back if it doesn't work as it should. So I buy from places that will take the lens back no questions asked. I accept the problem if I'm buying used. But when buying new, I will send it back. I did that with a Sigma 30 F1.4 ART and DOCK. I couldn't calibrate it to my acceptance, so I sent the lens and dock back for a refund and bought a different lens. Never looked back.

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Aug 01, 2014 09:24 |  #37

MalVeauX wrote in post #17069979 (external link)
No,

It has to be calibrated to YOUR camera. Each is different.

Personally I just send the lens back if it doesn't work as it should. So I buy from places that will take the lens back no questions asked. I accept the problem if I'm buying used. But when buying new, I will send it back. I did that with a Sigma 30 F1.4 ART and DOCK. I couldn't calibrate it to my acceptance, so I sent the lens and dock back for a refund and bought a different lens. Never looked back.

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So if I understand correctly, a mis-focusing lens is a defective lens?
I always thought that almost all lenses have that "problem" and its not a "not-working-properly" lens.


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Aug 01, 2014 09:57 |  #38

Romax12 wrote in post #17070083 (external link)
So if I understand correctly, a mis-focusing lens is a defective lens?
I always thought that almost all lenses have that "problem" and its not a "not-working-properly" lens.

Heya,

Nope, you are not understanding me. A lens that is not focusing properly and I don't want to calibrate or cannot calibrate myself, that requires a send in with my camera with it, at this price level, is not happening. I'll send the lens back for a new copy. Or I'll just get a different lens. For a super expensive setup, I'd send it in for proper calibration. But the bottom line is for something in the entry to mid-level cost range, I'm not fooling with it, and I'm sending it back for a new or different copy all together.

Simply my choice.

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Aug 01, 2014 13:28 |  #39

hennie wrote in post #17058583 (external link)
Find out what your the focal length is that matches your style of shooting first, that will give you a shorter list. 35 mm will be nice as a walk-around. When you really want to travel light consider the 40mm pancake.

I actually do the opposite (especially good for beginners): I choose the lens I like based on reviews, sample photos, weight, price etc., buy the lens, and then adjust my shooting style to make the most out of it.

A good example: if I was basing my next (fast prime) lens choice on the lenses I had at that time (like 55-250mm IS), I would have never picked 135L as the next lens, because on slow zoom lenses 135mm FL is rarely used on crop cameras. Instead, I went with the reviews and sample photos, bought 135L, and never regretted it. It is my by far the most used portrait lens, despite some inconveniences (you have to be "too far" from the subject).


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Aug 01, 2014 14:58 |  #40

pulsar123 wrote in post #17070567 (external link)
I actually do the opposite (especially good for beginners): I choose the lens I like based on reviews, sample photos, weight, price etc., buy the lens, and then adjust my shooting style to make the most out of it.

A good example: if I was basing my next (fast prime) lens choice on the lenses I had at that time (like 55-250mm IS), I would have never picked 135L as the next lens, because on slow zoom lenses 135mm FL is rarely used on crop cameras. Instead, I went with the reviews and sample photos, bought 135L, and never regretted it. It is my by far the most used portrait lens, despite some inconveniences (you have to be "too far" from the subject).

I would agree with this.
When I was start my dslr adventure beyond my T4i and 18-55mm kit lens; I read all the lens reviews I could. I understood FL and aperture characteristics, but not much beyond that.
Reading review helped my avoid purchases like the 135m 2.8 'soft focus' and the 75-300mm zoom.

On a side note, I hated the 40mm stm on my T4i.
I found it's 64mm FL was too long to be standard and too short to be a portrait lens on crop. :(
Now, I love the little lens on my 6D, love it's featherweight, and find no need for a 35L/A

My point is: reviews can be very helpful as long as the readers opinions are based on fact of the review.
Buy a lens used and trying it yourself is best. I have done this and 'spent' very little money after reselling.
One user's opinion of a lens may differ entirely from others and t may be for entirely different reasons.


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