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Aug 12, 2014 18:20 |  #46

Kind of ironic to censor comments yet write this in a previous blog post...

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Aug 12, 2014 18:26 |  #47

I found a red rock pic in both Meg's and Lisa's portfolios: same location, same girl, same dress, different pose. :) It seems they know each other and clearly sometimes shoot together. So no wonder we had them mixed up a bit. :)


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Aug 12, 2014 18:41 |  #48

:lol: That was entertaining to read. That guy is a tool! :lol:


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Aug 12, 2014 18:48 |  #49

This whole thread has been entertaining to read. :D
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Aug 12, 2014 18:57 |  #50

Moselem wrote in post #17092041 (external link)
Meg Bitton was the photographer he was calling out for not having a formal education: http://www.megbitton.c​om/ (external link) The "oversaturated" shot of the girl and red rocks and the one he posted below that.

So after taking a look at the hack's site in the OP I looked at the work Meg has posted.... fantastic stuff !!!! That guy's an absolute moron in so many ways, how he thinks his work is better than Meg's is astounding. Plus I nearly fell asleep trying to get through his diatribe, no potential customer in the world would make it through all of that.




  
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Aug 12, 2014 19:00 as a reply to  @ madhatter04's post |  #51

You would think that some one with as much "experience," would know that you can't use, edit, and delete a watermark without permission. He puts down other photogs about the ethics of pp when he can't even follow basic laws. Which I learned about in grade 6 while learning how to reference. Oh, and his photos have so much editing it looks like someone found them in the trash, next to the comments he ignores.

P.s. I hope he reads all of this  :p


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Aug 12, 2014 19:29 |  #52

I'd be amazed if this guy ever comes back to this forum.


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Aug 12, 2014 19:54 |  #53

I like how he says he doesn't care if people comment or message him about him disrespecting another photographer but clearly shows he cares enough to make a post saying he doesn't care. He seems to be the kind of person that talks just because he likes the sound of his own voice.

Very hypocritical to call someone a "Craigslist" photographer when you have an ad on Craigslist yourself.

And to call someone out for "oversaturating" photos yet on your homepage slideshow you have a black and white photo with the single color showing. That seems quite natural.




  
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Aug 12, 2014 20:08 |  #54

rivas8409 wrote in post #17092243 (external link)
I'd be amazed if this guy ever comes back to this forum.

Comes "back"? Has he been here before?

In response to other posts: His descriptions led me to think of Lisa's work at once. The photos had been removed before I saw the blog.


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Aug 12, 2014 20:14 |  #55

rivas8409 wrote in post #17092243 (external link)
I'd be amazed if this guy ever comes back to this forum.

I don't think he's a member here, but Lisa definitely is.


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Aug 12, 2014 20:21 |  #56

OhLook wrote in post #17092314 (external link)
Comes "back"? Has he been here before?

In response to other posts: His descriptions led me to think of Lisa's work at once. The photos had been removed before I saw the blog.

You're right. I misread the OP. My bad.


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Aug 12, 2014 20:28 |  #57

OMG I know. I have been following Lisa's work on the seniors forum for years, now she is hanging with Meg. That is an accomplishment. The fellow who ranted on her is totally out of touch with the new age of art and photography. Loser


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Aug 12, 2014 20:30 |  #58

LOL, an other bitter and lost in the digital world "straight out of camera" shooter whining about the times and tech changing. Funny. Besides that in the film days photos were manipulated in the darkroom with all kinds of tricks and alchemy as well. It's just easier and less messy nowadays.

What I capture in camera is my canvas and I do as I please with it in post, I'm just glad I don't have to have an extra room and piles of chemicals to do so.

Nobody has to like it, but calling out particular photographers as "bad" examples speaks of jealousy and insecurity, nothing else. And Lisa hopefully gets lots of hits and new business coming her way :-)

And somebody should probably consider retirement and lighten up a bit.


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Aug 12, 2014 20:34 |  #59

I saw this earlier and didn't have time to but to comment. To try and tear another photographers work down in some attempt to make your work seem more valid is certainly not very cool in my opinion. And worse to post the copyrighted material without their permission on his site even if it were flattering is not cool. Not to mention the photo by Robert Frank and a some photos by few others that he doesn't have permission to use. There are plenty of clients out there that like A and enough out there that like B not to publicly trash the competition.

Pretty petty and I'm glad he removed the other photographers images which he shouldn't have posted to begin with let alone trashing the competition which will come back to bite him hard I'm sure.




  
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Aug 12, 2014 20:49 |  #60

In film/ video, You have documentary films and you have action, drama, comedy, sci fi. There is an understanding that each genre has it's place. It's no different in photography. Can't figure out why no one watches your film? Don't blame the successful directors, improve your films--find a winning business strategy.

It's much easier to do in photography because there is less money involved, smaller crews and post is single vs thousands of frames.



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