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Aug 13, 2014 04:05 |  #1

Hi,
At the point of upgrading to my 1st FF from a T4i. I mainly shoot Long exposure in Landscape / Cityscape and Architecture.
Have done a bit of research and have narrowed it down to the following 2 options.

Canon 16-35 2.8 ii (+ Can take a filter, weather sealed. - Not the sharpest, Expensive).
Canon 24 -105 ( + Range, Cheap, IS. - f4).

OR

Tokina 16-28mm f2.8 ( + Sharp, Cheap. - No Filter without an expensive adapter).
Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 ( + Sharp, Cheap, 2.8. - ?).

I will be bringing over a Tamron SP 70 - 300 from my crop.

Any thoughts or recommendations appreciated (Budget is just over £3k including the 6d).

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Aug 13, 2014 04:18 |  #2

And what about the new Canon 16-35 f/4 and the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 ? It would be a bit of best of both worlds ?


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Aug 13, 2014 04:18 |  #3

It is unlikely that anyone has all the items you mentioned and can compare them for you. People will normally vouch (or not) for the gear they do have. I definitely vouch for the 24-105. Sharp, affordable L lens with a good reach. It is too 'slow' at f/4 for some, but I think that jacking up the ISO will deal with that and the additional advantage of the 6D - it handles high ISO values beautifully.


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Aug 13, 2014 04:43 |  #4

Buy the 6D and a 24-70mm 2.8 mk2 from Canon.. You are well within Budget if you buy from HDEW cameras near Croydon.. I got both my 5Ds and my 60D from there without any issues..

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The Tamron doesn't even come close to the Canon 24-70

And you might just have money over for the 17-40 http://www.hdewcameras​.co.uk …7-40mm-f40l-usm-262-p.asp (external link)


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Aug 13, 2014 04:44 |  #5

Reiep wrote in post #17092887 (external link)
And what about the new Canon 16-35 f/4 and the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 ? It would be a bit of best of both worlds ?

The Canon 16 -35 f2.8 and f4 are teh same price so the 2.8 is more attractive.




  
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Aug 13, 2014 04:51 |  #6

Redge wrote in post #17092904 (external link)
The Canon 16 -35 f2.8 and f4 are teh same price so the 2.8 is more attractive.

The F4 has Image stabilization and is newer from production


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Aug 13, 2014 04:59 |  #7

You should really think about IS if you don't carry a tripod around.



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Aug 13, 2014 05:24 |  #8

IS for the UWA is not a concern as will mainly be sat on a tripod.

The 24-70mm 2.8 mk2 does have much better sharpness throughout but I feel this lens will be used more as a walk around, so the VC on the Tamron would be more useful.

I do appreciate all the comments, it's a big spend so taking it all onboard.




  
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Aug 13, 2014 07:49 |  #9

Redge wrote in post #17092927 (external link)
The 24-70mm 2.8 mk2 does have much better sharpness throughout but I feel this lens will be used more as a walk around, so the VC on the Tamron would be more useful.

I had the Tamron for a day or two and did major testing and adjustments... No way good enough for my standards....


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Aug 13, 2014 07:56 |  #10

I'd go with the 16-35 F4 instead of the 2.8 if you do long exposure/tripod work. It's much MUCH sharper in the corners and if you don't need a fast lens it's worth it for the improvement in sharpness. I have the 24-105 and it's a great lens but I'm considering going to the 24-70 f4 as it's a bit sharper. However if you prefer the reach of the 105, it's still a great lens.


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Aug 13, 2014 08:59 |  #11

Redge wrote in post #17092878 (external link)
Hi,
At the point of upgrading to my 1st FF from a T4i. I mainly shoot Long exposure in Landscape / Cityscape and Architecture.
Have done a bit of research and have narrowed it down to the following 2 options.

Canon 16-35 2.8 ii (+ Can take a filter, weather sealed. - Not the sharpest, Expensive).
Canon 24 -105 ( + Range, Cheap, IS. - f4).

OR

Tokina 16-28mm f2.8 ( + Sharp, Cheap. - No Filter without an expensive adapter).
Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 ( + Sharp, Cheap, 2.8. - ?).

I will be bringing over a Tamron SP 70 - 300 from my crop.

Any thoughts or recommendations appreciated (Budget is just over £3k including the 6d).

Thanks

I have the Tokina 16-28 and the Tamron 24-70, luv them both, depends on what your needs/wants are. They both are about equal in size, you might be happier with the Tamron.


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Aug 13, 2014 11:04 |  #12

I mainly shoot Long exposure in Landscape / Cityscape and Architecture.

Then the new 16-35 f/4 IS is the better choice. The IS will serve you better than f/2.8 when you don't have a tripod. Long exposure necessitates a tripod, in which case IS or f/2.8 are a moot point, but the newer f/4 IS is sharper from the center, all the way to the corners. It's a better, newer lens, that takes smaller sized filters with less chance of physical vignetting. The ONLY reason to buy the f/2.8 is if you need f/2.8. It doesn't sound like you need f/2.8. For astrophotography, there are better lenses than either of these (Rokinon 14 or 24?) I haven't seen any posts about the f/4 IS handling of coma, I am interested in that. But from what I've seen in the f/4 IS samples thread, it's doing a pretty nice job of astro too. Do yourself a favor, get the f/4 IS!




  
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Aug 13, 2014 11:20 |  #13

OP stated long exposure landscape (one would assume tripod), so is IS really required?


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Aug 13, 2014 12:16 |  #14

The only reason why I'm going for 2.8 is for some possible astrophotography now and then. Sharpness in low light landscapes is more important. Yes I do have a good tripod :)




  
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Aug 13, 2014 13:11 |  #15

dasher108 wrote in post #17093506 (external link)
OP stated long exposure landscape (one would assume tripod), so is IS really required?

Of course not, but why not get the sharper of the two lenses? What does f/2.8 buy you when you're on a tripod?

The only reason why I'm going for 2.8 is for some possible astrophotography now and then. Sharpness in low light landscapes is more important. Yes I do have a good tripod

The 16-35 f/2.8 II isn't known for it's astrophotography abilities, mainly because of coma. Some pull it off, and brilliantly so I might add, but I think I'd still rather have the new 16-35 even for this purpose. You should pose the same question in the astro section.




  
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