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Aug 14, 2014 09:36 |  #1

What do you see wrong with this picture? and how can I improve that?

What would you have done differently?


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Aug 14, 2014 10:45 |  #2

Ok, Put her on the other side of the frame - she is beautiful, get her to smile...love the colors

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Aug 14, 2014 11:55 |  #3

As Diane has said, the issue here is composition.....do as Diane said OR have her turn the other way so that she faces INTO the shot. The background is quite nice and good DOF so no need to crop it out.
Personally, I would tone down the red lipstick and turn up the smile.




  
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Aug 14, 2014 11:59 |  #4

Not that I do portraits at all, but here are some opinions.

I would have left more space (background) above her head.

Skin tone is much darker on face and neck than below. Whether the difference is due to makeup or suntan, it's disconcerting. I also find her lipstick too bright; it distracts.


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Aug 14, 2014 14:17 |  #5

cameragal1 wrote in post #17095838 (external link)
Ok, Put her on the other side of the frame - she is beautiful, get her to smile...love the colors

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^ All of the above and also the skin looks soft and the hair looks sharp. The Lipstick is a little distracting.




  
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Aug 14, 2014 21:17 |  #6

The lip stick works for me :) and the expression is also interesting.... if someone took a photo of me with that expression i would just look ridiculous so it's cool that she can pull it off.

Definitely agree with turning her shoulders so she's looking right to left in the photo. See how it could look like she's walking off and you've just caught her in the corner of the frame ? You want her to be moving into the picture. ( i know she's standing still but that's the impression you get from the composition)

Also it feels a bit flat, needs some omph. Try shifting the blacks and whites to create more intense and texture.. but don't go overboard :) hehe

That's just my opinion! looks good :)


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Aug 14, 2014 23:01 |  #7

When the light is coming from as high as that light is, I'd bounce some fill light in to soften those bags under her eyes. Makeup might help, but her chin is a little dark, too.
And why didn't you shoot a vertical?


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Aug 15, 2014 01:09 |  #8

composition - yes - subject doesn't breath enough.

but for me the most noticable thing is amount of retouch and how this makes the whole face look flat.


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Aug 15, 2014 04:27 |  #9

+1 for all of the above

I am also wondering whether shooting a little higher and having her look up. Her expression with the fact she is looking a little downward, she is coming across haughty IMHO


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Aug 15, 2014 11:52 |  #10

Here is my hobbyist opinion. Her skin looks TOO smooth. I don't know if you did any softening, but I personally like a little texture in the skin. Like this, it looks like there are NO details in the face. The lip color is not bad, but it draws the attention to the lips and I think her eyes are a better subject.
With this size I can't tell if her eyes are in focus for sure, that is where I would want it to be. I would definitely get a reflector or something to lighten the hard areas of her neck and chin area.
The next two things are completely subjective so ignore at your own discretion. With portraits I ALWAYS want some sort of catch light in the eye. It just gives the eyes some pizazz and depth. To me, no light in the eyes looks like the person is dead. Must my opinion though. The second thing is her cleavage just beginning to show in the image. Either show more, or crop/clone it out. I actually covered that section with my hand and I like it more. It just isn't enough so get rid of it. But again, completely subjective.


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Aug 19, 2014 17:31 |  #11

I think you need to have a higher perspective. Its like you are looking ever so slightly looking up at her which is not a flattering angle


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Aug 21, 2014 17:34 |  #12

MadyGuzzz wrote in post #17095716 (external link)
What do you see wrong with this picture? and how can I improve that?

What would you have done differently?


Crop out that big tree trunk on the left.

It seems a bit soft.

I agree with the previous about her looking down. Also, is there a reason you cropped it right at the top of her cleavage vs a waist-up shot? She's not 12, so showing a bit of curves to me is appropriate here.


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Aug 23, 2014 08:30 |  #13

The camera was below her eyes so she is looking down. It's generally more appealing, the result, when the camera is at subject eye level or higher. And not having the subject's face square to the camera.




  
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Aug 23, 2014 09:53 as a reply to  @ HappySnapper90's post |  #14

This edit is just to demonstrate a different way to shoot this image. As already mentioned, I would have framed her so that she is looking 'into' the frame rather than out. The image also appears to be over exposed a little so you might apply a bit of negative Ec. The lighting is very flat so you might use a reflector to add some shadows/highlights to her face.

For post processing, I seperated the girl from the background and moved her to the left. Now that she is on a seperate layer, I darkened the background to make it less distracting. Using a seperate layer on 'color' blend mode, I tried to match the color of her face for her chest and arms. I also used the same technique to try and even out the color of her hair. I also tried to add a little modeling by adding some shadow to the right side of her face. Oh, I also tried to tone down the saturation of her lipstick so it would match the luminance of the rest of her face too. Finally, I lowered the vibrance of the overall image just a little.


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Sep 04, 2014 10:59 |  #15

Go Navydoc - great edit!

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