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Aug 14, 2014 09:34 |  #1

This is probably a dumb question, but how is the 580EX II Speedlite?

I have a 430EX II and its been great. BUT, I bought a Yongnuo YN568EX II and it overheats so quickly that its practically useless. Guess that's what I get for going cheaper.

I know Canon's product is solid, but if I pick up one of these, am I going to have overheating problems? The 430 has never once overheated, so I wouldn't think the 580 would either, but just wanted to check your experience.

Also, how many years can you expect these to work, within reason? I know there are a lot of variables in that, but just curious. Obviously I'll have to get a used one. Thanks..!


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Aug 14, 2014 13:55 |  #2

Well I've had two for a few yrs and basically they have been reliable and tough. I do sometimes use HSS which works them c X5 harder that usual - but I usually try to run them between 1/4 and 1/2 power. I agree with David Hobby that if you habitually run them at 1/1 most Speedlites are not going to stand up particularly well. Mine were bought new.

Once or twice they have locked up. Reset requires batts out - switch on - press Pilot & retry.

I've several 550Exs, also reliable (if you baby their plastic feet) - most were secondhand off Ebay. I stuck to pristine looking units from vendors with 99.3% or more reputations to protect. Maybe I was just very lucky!




  
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Aug 15, 2014 06:06 |  #3

Get a Godex AD360 or Cheetahstand CL360, you'll be much happier in the long run.


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Aug 15, 2014 08:26 |  #4

I've never heard of those.. hummm.. I'll have to check them out.


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Aug 15, 2014 09:19 as a reply to  @ Sparrow19's post |  #5

the 360 isn't really made to go on your camera's hotshoe. Sure it can, but with a big external battery it would be cumbersome.

580EXII works great for me. Only thing i know that might hold you back is an interference problem with some (all?) Pocket Wizard triggers.


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Aug 15, 2014 13:25 |  #6

Sparrow19 wrote in post #17095713 (external link)
This is probably a dumb question, but how is the 580EX II Speedlite?

I have a 430EX II and its been great. BUT, I bought a Yongnuo YN568EX II and it overheats so quickly that its practically useless. Guess that's what I get for going cheaper.

I know Canon's product is solid, but if I pick up one of these, am I going to have overheating problems? The 430 has never once overheated, so I wouldn't think the 580 would either, but just wanted to check your experience.

Also, how many years can you expect these to work, within reason? I know there are a lot of variables in that, but just curious. Obviously I'll have to get a used one. Thanks..!

One other option to consider would be the Godox/Cheetah V860C ETTL speedlight. Comparable light output to the Canon 600 or 580 and it uses a lithium ion battery pack instead of having to mess with AA's. Initial run had issues with FEC in ETTL mode but all reports are now indicating that has been resolved with a firmware update. If you are in the US the best place to get one would be from Edward at Cheetahstand.com. He is selling them for $198.88 and provides excellent service and support. Full review here: http://flashhavoc.com …c-ving-ettl-flash-review/ (external link) By the way, the Godox units are available under various brand names but they are all the same equipment.

One thing to keep in mind though is that all the flash units we are discussing are higher power output than your mid range 430EX. Higher power output means more heat if you are running them full out. Speedlite type enclosed flash tubes are going to be more inclined to overheat in hard use. That is why Old School suggested the 360 barebulb flash unit. It can do 70 305ws full pops in a row before going into overheat protection mode. And since it is effectively as powerful as 4 or 5 speedlites it is rare you would be using it extensively at full power. Unfortunately it is a bit too large to use effectively on camera, and I think that is what you are intending.


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Aug 15, 2014 15:33 |  #7

I had 3 580EX II fail in one wedding. I think you know how I feel about them.


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Aug 15, 2014 15:37 |  #8

If you drive them harder than their capacity they will overheat, but if you havent had a problem with the 430 then you are unlikely to have an issue with the 580.




  
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Aug 15, 2014 17:04 |  #9

The 580 has been a workhorse for many years. I have model I and II's still going strong. Just be aware of the built in heat protection. Use regular alkaline batteries or Eneloop rechargeables. Do not use the durapower or maxpower akalines or lithiums which will run hot to burning hot. The durapower akalines kick in the heat protection after only a half dozen rapid pops.




  
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Aug 18, 2014 15:49 |  #10

I use eneloop batteries. I guess I need to dial down the power on my YN568EX II to help prevent the overheating. Flash at lower power is better than no flash at all.

scorpio_e wrote in post #17098510 (external link)
I had 3 580EX II fail in one wedding. I think you know how I feel about them.

What do you use then if you don't like those?


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Aug 18, 2014 18:06 |  #11

I love my 580EX II


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Aug 18, 2014 18:25 |  #12

never had an issue with mine.


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Aug 18, 2014 19:47 |  #13

Sparrow19 wrote in post #17103906 (external link)
I use eneloop batteries. I guess I need to dial down the power on my YN568EX II to help prevent the overheating. Flash at lower power is better than no flash at all.

What do you use then if you don't like those?

I actually got rid of most of them. Replace one with the V860 and a 600. Still have one left and will eventually get rid of it.


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Aug 19, 2014 03:39 |  #14

Most radiant flash Canon ever made...not light but radio waves, disturbing all kind of radio triggers.




  
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Aug 19, 2014 04:55 as a reply to  @ mmmfotografie's post |  #15

I have one. Bought it in 2007 and still using it now.
In the early days I always used it on camera hotshoe. The problem I had is that sometimes it stuck in TTL mode, not ETTL, and stuck in full power.
Even if I turned it off and on again its still in TTL full power.

For the last few years I use it off camera, so I have no TTL problem with it anymore :)




  
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