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Aug 16, 2014 14:50 |  #4291

Mikiort, those are some nice shots!


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Aug 16, 2014 16:23 |  #4292

Peter2516 wrote in post #17098333 (external link)
I mostly handheld BIF and VC off. Eagles and Osprey are not so bad to track. I first find the subject around 200mm FL and zoomed out to 500/600mm once I acquired target and I keep pressing the (*) back button for AF. I have a gimbal head (Opteka GH1) and use I use it too but I feel more comfortable handholding during BIF.

Peter handhald VC off Technic is a myth. I bet you get sharper image VC on (even though at higher focal length in high shutter speed VC isn't that effective but it does help getting a stabilized frame which is essential for sharp image IMHO. When i mount my 7D + tammy in a gimbal head, i turn on VC and results are better if not same :)

I am more of a handheld guy but i find Tripod gets much sharper image in BIF. It does limit us in many ways but for getting sharper images i sacrifice those. Tripod + gimbal head gives me 80% or more sharper image. You live in good location and plenty of BIF opportunity.. Try setup a hideout and wait with your arsenal for the right moment..


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Aug 16, 2014 16:25 |  #4293

JM Photos and Lester, great to see you can enjoy shooting with your Tamrons eventually. Nice shots both of you.




  
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Aug 16, 2014 16:26 |  #4294

Mag-1981 wrote in post #17100293 (external link)
JM Photos and Lester, great to see you can enjoy shooting with your Tamrons eventually. Nice shots both of you.

Thank you very much!


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Aug 16, 2014 16:28 |  #4295

Peter, I took the Tammy to Juanita Bay Park last night and I saw two Blue Herons. The first was sitting as still as can be facing away from me (looking outward) for about 30 minutes without budging. The second was between me and bright sun so shooting at him looked terrible. Too bad that both opportunities were duds. I did come away with a nice shot of a turtle in the lily pads, though. I'll post it soon.


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Aug 16, 2014 16:42 |  #4296

friendbis wrote in post #17100287 (external link)
Peter handhald VC off Technic is a myth. I bet you get sharper image VC on (even though at higher focal length in high shutter speed VC isn't that effective but it does help getting a stabilized frame which is essential for sharp image IMHO. When i mount my 7D + tammy in a gimbal head, i turn on VC and results are better if not same :)

VC, IS, VR and so on, are said to have a slowing down effect on the AF and from my experience this statement is definitely true. I use this Tamron almost exclusively for birds and I never go below 1/1250. I also always keep the VC off. Out of curiosity I once decided to shoot with the VC on and I noticed a significant degradation in sharpness. Obviously it may be due to other factors and I will have to do some more testing, but so far, I am far happier without the VC.




  
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Aug 16, 2014 16:44 |  #4297

Mag-1981 wrote in post #17100319 (external link)
VC, IS, VR and so on, are said to have a slowing down effect on the AF and from my experience this statement is definitely true. I use this Tamron almost exclusively for birds and I never go below 1/1250. I also always keep the VC off. Out of curiosity I once decided to shoot with the VC on and I noticed a significant degradation in sharpness. Obviously it may be due to other factors and I will have to do some more testing, but so far, I am far happier without the VC.

How do you shoot BIF? I want to know the most fail-safe method. Shooting mode, ISO, etc.


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Aug 16, 2014 17:05 |  #4298

friendbis wrote in post #17100287 (external link)
Peter handhald VC off Technic is a myth.

It's certainly no myth on my 7D with my 150-600mm. I rarely attempt BIF shots at less than 1/1,250 and even then I have much sharper results hand held with VC off. It's a bugger to find, track & frame the birds but my keeper rate is still higher.


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Aug 16, 2014 17:22 |  #4299

JM Photos wrote in post #17100321 (external link)
How do you shoot BIF? I want to know the most fail-safe method. Shooting mode, ISO, etc.

:oops: It is almost a compliment to be asked for an advice on how to shoot BIF but I am relatively new to all this and there are many members on POTN who are seasoned bird shooters and many of them have truly mastered BIF techniques and I am sure they would be more than happy to answer all your questions.
But if you want to know how I shoot with Tamron, then it's all the universal rules for BIF that I apply. Or should I say there is no universal rules. All depends on the light available. I always shoot in Manual, I try to keep ISO as low as possible (below 800), but since you shoot with 6D, you can go much higher than this. Shutter Speed always 1/1250 or above, Al Servo, high speed burst mode and I use BB for focusing. I always shoot handheld and with VC off. I hope it helps.




  
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Aug 16, 2014 17:37 |  #4300

Mag-1981 wrote in post #17100368 (external link)
:oops: It is almost a compliment to be asked for an advice on how to shoot BIF but I am relatively new to all this and there are many members on POTN who are seasoned bird shooters and many of them have truly mastered BIF techniques and I am sure they would be more than happy to answer all your questions.
But if you want to know how I shoot with Tamron, then it's all the universal rules for BIF that I apply. Or should I say there is no universal rules. All depends on the light available. I always shoot in Manual, I try to keep ISO as low as possible (below 800), but since you shoot with 6D, you can go much higher than this. Shutter Speed always 1/1250 or above, Al Servo, high speed burst mode and I use BB for focusing. I always shoot handheld and with VC off. I hope it helps.

I find shooting fully manual would create opportunity to miss shots. Would you agree that Shutter Priority could be better? Set to 1250 or 1500 and let the camera determine the Aperture and for me on a 6D maybe let the ISO stay on auto?


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Aug 16, 2014 17:44 |  #4301

mccamli wrote in post #17100350 (external link)
It's certainly no myth on my 7D with my 150-600mm. I rarely attempt BIF shots at less than 1/1,250 and even then I have much sharper results hand held with VC off. It's a bugger to find, track & frame the birds but my keeper rate is still higher.

I have no doubt in your technique and handheld technique varies person to person so does the result. Off course IS / VC slows down a bit of AF but for longer telephoto lens IS compensate by stabilizing the frame while in handheld which is great and result good tracking & sharper image. IS has very less effect if you shoot in higher shutter speed, which i already stated.


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Aug 16, 2014 17:52 |  #4302

JM Photos wrote in post #17100388 (external link)
I find shooting fully manual would create opportunity to miss shots. Would you agree that Shutter Priority could be better? Set to 1250 or 1500 and let the camera determine the Aperture and for me on a 6D maybe let the ISO stay on auto?

All I can say is just try various settings and find the one best suited for yourself. I find manual most useful but I know many people like shooting birds in Tv mode. It's all down to your individual preferences.




  
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Aug 16, 2014 17:53 |  #4303

Mag-1981 wrote in post #17100319 (external link)
VC, IS, VR and so on, are said to have a slowing down effect on the AF and from my experience this statement is definitely true. I use this Tamron almost exclusively for birds and I never go below 1/1250. I also always keep the VC off. Out of curiosity I once decided to shoot with the VC on and I noticed a significant degradation in sharpness. Obviously it may be due to other factors and I will have to do some more testing, but so far, I am far happier without the VC.

Very true, VC slows down the AF as when VC is turn on, to AF the VC has to kick in then AF start to work. VC/IS has very little to do in high shutter speed but VC/IS helps getting stabilize frame for tracking and hence sharper result. But many master the art of handheld so find more confident to work around and also IS/VC isn't a perfect technology :)


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Aug 16, 2014 18:03 |  #4304

I shot this mimosa bloom over a beaver pond. Shot at 600mm about 40 ft away. Small amount of crop.

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Aug 17, 2014 01:49 |  #4305

Mag-1981 wrote in post #17100293 (external link)
JM Photos and Lester, great to see you can enjoy shooting with your Tamrons eventually. Nice shots both of you.

Thank you.


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