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Aug 11, 2014 14:31 |  #16

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #17089314 (external link)
hmm, they might have had a metabones with old firmware.

I had Sony a7R for couple months and AF worked with: 17-40, 24-105, 50 1.4, Sigma 85 1.4, Canon 70-200II, and 100-400 so basically all the lenses I had at that time.

It was slow, but it worked.

Hmm. That is good news that you find more canon lense compatible with the a7. I tried the demo last month. But it was a sony demo, so maybe their metabones was not updated. They also were giving me offers to use thier native lens as well. I do love the a7 paired with the sony 55mm 1.8. That is a sweet combo. I also tried out the rx100 iii. That is one hella good point and shoot. However, I could not bear to pay 800 bucks for a fast depreciating point and shoot.


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Aug 11, 2014 17:46 |  #17
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nekrosoft13 wrote in post #17089527 (external link)
a7R disappointed me in many areas, IQ was great, but overall E-M1 is much much better.

and yes I do agree with that " mirrorless FF with canon skin tones, OMD AF abilities, sony dynamic range, would be pretty desirable" and ability to use Canon, Fuji x and M43 lenses would be great! Fuji x and M43 in crop mode of course. oh and E-M1 ergonomics/buttons/swi​tches.

Yes, the camera will disappoint if you bought it for the wrong applications. I use mine for landscapes and it sure does not disappoint at all.




  
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Aug 11, 2014 17:48 |  #18

vipergts831 wrote in post #17089382 (external link)
Not sure what blazing AF speed people are looking for. With an adapter you will have slow AF but the MF options make that very viable. With a native E mount lens AF locks on quick.

Most people just expect AF to be fast as if they pair up the canon lens to their canon body. If they pair up FE lens to A7/A7r/A7s then sure, you will get blazing fast AF since it is native mount.




  
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Aug 11, 2014 17:48 |  #19
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snake0ape wrote in post #17089572 (external link)
Hmm. That is good news that you find more canon lense compatible with the a7. I tried the demo last month. But it was a sony demo, so maybe their metabones was not updated. They also were giving me offers to use thier native lens as well. I do love the a7 paired with the sony 55mm 1.8. That is a sweet combo. I also tried out the rx100 iii. That is one hella good point and shoot. However, I could not bear to pay 800 bucks for a fast depreciating point and shoot.

Why do you care how fast it depreciates. Just buy it and use it. All my DSLR's I've owned depreciated basically to zero...but I used them and got value out of them.

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Aug 12, 2014 00:16 |  #20

Hogloff wrote in post #17089896 (external link)
Why do you care how fast it depreciates. Just buy it and use it. All my DSLR's I've owned depreciated basically to zero...but I used them and got value out of them.

I invest in stocks to increase my wealth, not my photo gear.

Ha. It's more than depreciation, it's also 800 bucks for a point and shoot. Food on the table first, right?


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Aug 12, 2014 08:16 |  #21
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snake0ape wrote in post #17090476 (external link)
Ha. It's more than depreciation, it's also 800 bucks for a point and shoot. Food on the table first, right?

Well if you can't afford it, you can't afford it...but don't blame the camera as it's one hell of a camera in a very compact form that delivers amazing photos. If you want something that you can carry with you everywhere, this camera is hard to beat.




  
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Aug 12, 2014 08:23 |  #22
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Hogloff wrote in post #17089891 (external link)
Yes, the camera will disappoint if you bought it for the wrong applications. I use mine for landscapes and it sure does not disappoint at all.

I bought mine to be my girlfriends main camera, and lets just say she used it for a while, but after she saw the pics she started using my olympus all the time...


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Aug 12, 2014 08:46 |  #23

Kiwimochi wrote in post #17089895 (external link)
Most people just expect AF to be fast as if they pair up the canon lens to their canon body. If they pair up FE lens to A7/A7r/A7s then sure, you will get blazing fast AF since it is native mount.

Not sure why you would expect blazing fast AF when you are using an adapter. Kind of makes no sense to have such expectations especially if you know going in that you will need to use an additional item to use a lens from a different brand/mount.


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Aug 12, 2014 22:38 |  #24

vipergts831 wrote in post #17090912 (external link)
Not sure why you would expect blazing fast AF when you are using an adapter. Kind of makes no sense to have such expectations especially if you know going in that you will need to use an additional item to use a lens from a different brand/mount.

sit back..relax THEN read my reply again dude.




  
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Aug 16, 2014 17:41 |  #25

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Heya,

Everyone in threads seems to say "Get the A7XXX and you can still use Canon's glass" but the reality is that the adaptation to use the Canon glass is just a total pain, it either works very slow with AF, or it doesn't work at all. Not worth investing in the Sony camera if you want to use Canon glass (telephotos specifically and fast primes; obviously it's fine for someone doing manual focus landscape/astro regardless of the glass used, but they don't need Canon glass for that).

I really don't see why someone who was planning to use telephotos and fast primes would get a Sony A7R, there's no advantage the A7R has over a 5D Mark III in that area. But in terms of landscapes, the 36MP Exmor blows away the 5D's sensor.
For most Canon shooters, I think it's fair to say the Sony A7R is not a replacement for a 5D Mark III, but makes a great second body.
The 5D Mark III does a much better job of sports, portraits, events, weddings etc. The Sony A7R is a specialised camera for landscape, architecture, and street photography/walkabout. You can put on a 24mm TS-E, a 17mm TS-E and a 24-70mm II and it performs much better for landscapes than Canon's body. Autofocus is irrelevant in these roles.


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Aug 16, 2014 18:21 |  #26

Kiwimochi wrote in post #17092561 (external link)
sit back..relax THEN read my reply again dude.

The way I read it, vipergts831 is agreeing with you.
I have been wrong before though..


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Aug 16, 2014 19:11 |  #27

Mornnb wrote in post #17100396 (external link)
I really don't see why someone who was planning to use telephotos and fast primes would get a Sony A7R, there's no advantage the A7R has over a 5D Mark III in that area. But in terms of landscapes, the 36MP Exmor blows away the 5D's sensor.
For most Canon shooters, I think it's fair to say the Sony A7R is not a replacement for a 5D Mark III, but makes a great second body.
The 5D Mark III does a much better job of sports, portraits, events, weddings etc. The Sony A7R is a specialised camera for landscape, architecture, and street photography/walkabout. You can put on a 24mm TS-E, a 17mm TS-E and a 24-70mm II and it performs much better for landscapes than Canon's body. Autofocus is irrelevant in these roles.

I've used my 150-600 on the A7r, because why not? Landscapes is not limited to wide angle lenses.

Fast primes? Most of the time, my A7r uses one. I may scale down to 2.8 primes for weight savings, but fast primes is no issue with the precise peaking the sony offers. For slowish events/people photography, I have no issues using fast primes. MF with the sony is probably as fast as AF with the 85L for reference.

if you're in a pinch and dont have a 5D3 around, the A7r is certainly serviceable with the exception of really erratic sports.


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Aug 16, 2014 19:45 |  #28

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I've used my 150-600 on the A7r, because why not? Landscapes is not limited to wide angle lenses.

Quite true. But I tend to see the Sony A7R as an extra digital back for a Canon set up.

There are good reasons to use Canon glass on the Sony A7r for landscape etc.
The 24-70mm II significantly out performs the native Zeiss 24-70mm f4, as well as Nikon's 24-70mm. Same for the 70-200mm. And the amazingly sharp 24mm TS-E and 17mm TS-E. Quality Canon glass really benefits from the 36MP sensor, and is a better way to take advantage of the sensor than many other options. You can combine the industries best lenses with the industries best sensor.


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Aug 17, 2014 06:45 |  #29

AF is not useable (in my opinion) with adapted lenses. BUT if you open your mind, and challenge yourself to learn to manual focus with the assistance of focus peaking, its a fantastic camera. It will take your skill as a photographer up a notch.

Definitely worth the learning curve....the Sony sensor allows Canon lenses to perform to their full potential, IMO:

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