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Aug 16, 2014 19:10 |  #1

Hello guys,

I currently have 40D with Tamron 28-75 and I am not satisfied with how pictures come out (they are not sharp and etc)
So my question is, if I have about $1000 to spend on an upgrade, should I use it to upgrade my camera body or keep the body and uograde my lens? (if yes, which body or lens should I upgrade to?)
I mostly use my camera to take pictures of miniature figures and just for all around everyday life photos.

Thanks in advance!




  
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Aug 16, 2014 19:19 |  #2

Upgrading your camera will not make your picture more sharp ... the light pass first by the lens, and it's the quality of the lens which make the difference ;) (i do not know your lens if it's a good one or not)

If you want to stay in the same range that your actual lens i will recommend you for around $ 1000 the Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 VC (VC mean Vibration Compensation, it's like the IS on Canon lenses)
If you want to know more about this Tamron 24-70
> http://www.dpreview.co​m …mron-24-70mm-2p8-vc-usd/6 (external link)

Over all it might be also your technique, can you post a picture that you consider usually not sharp with all the exif inside, like that, before you buy any lenses we can tell you if you need to change your lens or need to change the way you're taking picture ;)


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Aug 16, 2014 19:19 |  #3

Just curious if you can post any full resolution examples? That combo should be plenty sharp.


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Aug 16, 2014 20:11 |  #4

Reservoir Dog wrote in post #17100533 (external link)
Upgrading your camera will not make your picture more sharp ... the light pass first by the lens, and it's the quality of the lens which make the difference ;) (i do not know your lens if it's a good one or not)

If you want to stay in the same range that your actual lens i will recommend you for around $ 1000 the Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 VC (VC mean Vibration Compensation, it's like the IS on Canon lenses)
If you want to know more about this Tamron 24-70
> http://www.dpreview.co​m …mron-24-70mm-2p8-vc-usd/6 (external link)

Over all it might be also your technique, can you post a picture that you consider usually not sharp with all the exif inside, like that, before you buy any lenses we can tell you if you need to change your lens or need to change the way you're taking picture ;)

HaroldC3 wrote in post #17100534 (external link)
Just curious if you can post any full resolution examples? That combo should be plenty sharp.

I will post some pictures when I get home. Thanks




  
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Aug 16, 2014 20:20 |  #5

How about a Macro Lens for your miniature figures may give a cool perspective . and yes do post a image with EXIF .

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Aug 16, 2014 20:28 |  #6

17-55 for your 40D, that's what's practically glued to mine.


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Aug 16, 2014 21:56 |  #7

The 40d is fine. The 28-75 is a 2.8 lens, but it isn't razor sharp at 2.8.

The 17-50 IS will be sharper. The Tamron 24-70 VC will be sharp and have stabilization, but it is quite bulky (but give you a pretty equivalent range.


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Aug 17, 2014 09:26 |  #8

BrickR wrote in post #17100685 (external link)
The 40d is fine. The 28-75 is a 2.8 lens, but it isn't razor sharp at 2.8.

The 17-50 IS will be sharper. The Tamron 24-70 VC will be sharp and have stabilization, but it is quite bulky (but give you a pretty equivalent range.

Bulky in what ? can you explain ? because i don't see anything "bulky" in this lens ;)


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Aug 17, 2014 14:39 |  #9

28-75: 510g, 2.8"w, 3.6"l, filter 67mm
24-70: 845g, 3.5"w, 4.6"l, filter 82mm

I have the 28-75 and rented the 24-70. I've never revered to the 28-75 as large or heavy but I sure can say that about the 24-70 in comparison ;)


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Aug 17, 2014 15:04 |  #10

boradoridori wrote in post #17100525 (external link)
Hello guys,

I currently have 40D with Tamron 28-75 and I am not satisfied with how pictures come out (they are not sharp and etc)
So my question is, if I have about $1000 to spend on an upgrade, should I use it to upgrade my camera body or keep the body and uograde my lens? (if yes, which body or lens should I upgrade to?)
I mostly use my camera to take pictures of miniature figures and just for all around everyday life photos.

Thanks in advance!

Heya,

Keep your body.

Get a macro prime. EF-S 60mm F2.8 macro comes to mind.

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Aug 17, 2014 15:22 |  #11

BrickR wrote in post #17100685 (external link)
The 40d is fine. The 28-75 is a 2.8 lens, but it isn't razor sharp at 2.8.

The 17-50 IS will be sharper. The Tamron 24-70 VC will be sharp and have stabilization, but it is quite bulky (but give you a pretty equivalent range.

I agree with the "bulky" part. I had that lens on my crop body and it made the camera so front heavy that it was actually uncomfortable to carry one-handed by the grip portion. I ended up with the 17-50 non-VC (or non-IS, if you like) Tamron, which I really like so far. The only caveat here is that I heard that the non-IS lens is sharper than the IS lens so I went that way... if you are shooting mostly from a tripod, you might be able to save a little money by going non-IS.


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Aug 18, 2014 03:35 as a reply to  @ Ross H's post |  #12

While lenses contribute to sharpness, I find that precise AF is even more important.
I would upgrade your body to something that supports lens micro adjustments. I think the 50D, 7D, and 70D support it. If you can push your budget a bit, get a used 5DII or a 6D. Your 28-75 lens would have a much more useful range on a full frame sensor. I'm just not sure if lens micro adjust would work with a non-canon lens...

By the way, I would stay away from the 7D. While it supports micro adjust, I had lots of AF accuracy problems with mine. I thought it was my fault until I sold it and got a 5D3. My AF issues are gone!




  
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Aug 18, 2014 04:11 |  #13

Kmccarthy wrote in post #17102788 (external link)
While lenses contribute to sharpness, I find that precise AF is even more important.
I would upgrade your body to something that supports lens micro adjustments. I think the 50D, 7D, and 70D support it. If you can push your budget a bit, get a used 5DII or a 6D. Your 28-75 lens would have a much more useful range on a full frame sensor. I'm just not sure if lens micro adjust would work with a non-canon lens...

By the way, I would stay away from the 7D. While it supports micro adjust, I had lots of AF accuracy problems with mine. I thought it was my fault until I sold it and got a 5D3. My AF issues are gone!

You're confusing the issue. Focus is a separate issue to sharpness.

Micro adjustment works just fine on third party lenses.


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Aug 18, 2014 04:45 |  #14

Gungnir wrote in post #17102807 (external link)
You're confusing the issue. Focus is a separate issue to sharpness.

Micro adjustment works just fine on third party lenses.

No they are related. A photo could not be sharp due to a focus adjustment issue, or bad glass in general. There is a third reason too, and that could be improper settings causing hand shake to appear in the results. Example photos would be helpful to this discussion.


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Aug 18, 2014 07:14 |  #15

Just buy a Sigma 17-50 f/2.8 OS. Can be had for around $390. New. Exceptional bang for buck. Image stabilised. Lovely lens.




  
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