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POLL: "Would you buy a Canon 7D mark ii?"
Yes! I am excited about this camera!
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No. There is no market for this camera.
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Maybe. Only if it was under $2000 and significantly upgraded over the 7D.
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Maybe. But only if Canon reintroduced the APS-H (1.3x crop) sensor
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I'm happy where I'm at.
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The only way I'd buy another crop camera is through a different manufacturer.
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Aug 18, 2014 16:32 |  #136

whats a 7d mrk2




  
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Aug 18, 2014 16:39 |  #137

Luckless wrote in post #17099757 (external link)
Pretty sure my 7D royally kicks the snot out of a 5D mk I at ISO 6400...

I'm not betting on a new crop sensor beating the 5DIII for sensor noise, but I won't assume that it is an absolute given that a brand new camera sensor, that is potentially based on radically different tech, is going to automatically be worse than a sensor 2+ years older than it.

The 7D vs. the 5D original holds no merit as a comparison. They are too far off in age.


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Aug 18, 2014 16:46 |  #138

hollis_f wrote in post #17102883 (external link)
How's about a Direct Print Button - I bet that would be popular ;)

It's 2014, not 2008. The 7DII will be the first DSLR to have a Direct Twitter/FB/Instagram Button...


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Aug 18, 2014 17:03 |  #139

Jarvis Creative Studios wrote in post #17103976 (external link)
The 7D vs. the 5D original holds no merit as a comparison. They are too far off in age.

Go back and look at the release dates, and compare how far along we are in time between the original release date of the Canon EOS 5D mk III, and now. (And then add in additional time before we're likely to see a release date on a 7DII)

Then go look at how far apart the original release date of the first Canon 5D was compared to when the 7D first came out.

Compare those two time differences and you might be surprised at how quickly we're coming up on those being awfully similar...


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Aug 18, 2014 21:56 |  #140

myphotographic wrote in post #17103985 (external link)
It's 2014, not 2008. The 7DII will be the first DSLR to have a Direct Twitter/FB/Instagram Button...

I know your joshing but sadly it looks as if the 7DII is not going to be WiFi equipped. :(


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Aug 20, 2014 18:26 |  #141

gjl711 wrote in post #17104474 (external link)
I know your joshing but sadly it looks as if the 7DII is not going to be WiFi equipped. :(


I know that some people dont use it but the WiFi feature is nice to have, especially for trips ect, you can just load pics onto your phone / Ipad / ect to view.


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Aug 21, 2014 04:29 |  #142

madasax wrote in post #17108254 (external link)
I know that some people dont use it but the WiFi feature is nice to have, especially for trips ect, you can just load pics onto your phone / Ipad / ect to view.

if it's jpg
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Aug 21, 2014 17:24 |  #143

watt100 wrote in post #17108935 (external link)
if it's jpg
I shoot in RAW

Doesn't matter, when you transfer it will convert for you. I've had several clients who loved that feature.


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Aug 21, 2014 18:06 |  #144
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Jarvis Creative Studios wrote in post #17103976 (external link)
The 7D vs. the 5D original holds no merit as a comparison. They are too far off in age.

Well stated. No comparison at all. I wouldn't touch a 7D if a 5D were available. But that only applies to what I shoot, and how I shoot it.

I tried to vote, but there was no option for:

The original 7D didn't interest me; I doubt the 7DII will, either.


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Aug 21, 2014 18:34 |  #145

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17110233 (external link)
Well stated. No comparison at all.

Yes, it is rather unfair to compare the original 5D to a 7D... The 7D wins high ISO hands down, given that it supports higher ranges that the 5D doesn't.

Yes, they are very different cameras suited to exceptionally different fields of photography, but the point being made was that full frame isn't magical, and sensor technology advances and improves regardless of the surface area of the sensor.

The earliest 'digital sensor' I'm aware of was something that was effectively a single pixel and the chip was about the size of a large thumb with an effective ISO somewhere in the range of 10 or so. Needless to say we have come a little ways in the decades since that thing first sat on the workbench in a lab somewhere.


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Aug 21, 2014 18:53 |  #146
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Luckless wrote in post #17110259 (external link)
Yes, it is rather unfair to compare the original 5D to a 7D... The 7D wins high ISO hands down, given that it supports higher ranges that the 5D doesn't.

Yes, they are very different cameras suited to exceptionally different fields of photography, but the point being made was that full frame isn't magical, and sensor technology advances and improves regardless of the surface area of the sensor.

The earliest 'digital sensor' I'm aware of was something that was effectively a single pixel and the chip was about the size of a large thumb with an effective ISO somewhere in the range of 10 or so. Needless to say we have come a little ways in the decades since that thing first sat on the workbench in a lab somewhere.

Of course the 7D wins at something the 5D can't do. Duh!

No, ff is not magical. It just allows less noise, shallower DOF, better dynamic range, and a much higher DLA, especially on the 5D.

We certainly agree that sensor tech improves with time. We are not comparing recent developments, though. I was referring to the 7D/5D point above. I'd take a 5D anytime, not because it is inherently better. But because a ff sensor better suits what I do. Still apsc is apsc. No way on earth is a 70D, let alone the 5 year old 7D, is going to best a 5D in raw IQ.

None of this is to say that any apsc camera is bad. I still have my 60D and have no intentions of parting with it. If I am shooting f/5.6 or narrower, there is no reason to prefer either format, for me anyway. Both will do the job.


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Aug 21, 2014 22:12 |  #147

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17110282 (external link)
It just allows less noise, better dynamic range

For comparable levels of technology.

I've not used an original 5D for any length of time, but I have done a fair bit of work with files produced from them, and I find both cameras rather comparable to each other for DR and noise management. Compare it to a 5D2 and the 7D is clearly losing, but crop sensors are still perfectly capable of enjoying massive leaps in technology given time.

Of course if you apply similar tech from the same era to a full frame you are back to it having an advantage, but my original point was specifically comparing a New crop sensor to the abilities of an old full frame.

And until someone actually gets their hands on a fabled 7DII there is absolutely no reliable way to say one way or the other whether it will have worse, comparable, or better DR and noise than what the current 5DIII does... Because the camera doesn't yet exist in the wild, if at all.


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Aug 22, 2014 02:48 |  #148

flashpoint99 wrote in post #17103969 (external link)
whats a 7d mrk2

A thing that doesn't exist.




  
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Aug 22, 2014 02:49 |  #149

watt100 wrote in post #17108935 (external link)
if it's jpg
I shoot in RAW

Thank you Fro Knows Photo.




  
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Aug 22, 2014 05:16 |  #150

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17110163 (external link)
Doesn't matter, when you transfer it will convert for you. I've had several clients who loved that feature.

I seriously doubt it does any conversion. I would bet large sums of cash that it's extracting the highly-compressed jpeg image embedded in the raw data.


Still, now you know that your clients are satisfied by the lowest-quality jpeg.


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